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Old September 23rd 20, 10:35 PM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
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Default Paraglider pilot missing in eastern Nevada

On Sunday, September 20, 2020 at 12:25:54 PM UTC-7, Semantics Michael wrote:
On Saturday, September 19, 2020 at 9:32:21 AM UTC-5, Soartech wrote:
Please don't post cryptic links that hide FAKEBOOK.
Here is the information in a respected website: https://xcmag.com/news/kiwi-johnston...-under-a-tree/

https://rb.gy/pn6s8d

Boggs


What gives with the fragile tempers on RAS? You make it sound like the poster conspired to infect the entire digital universe. While I never will understand the attraction for Facebook (Could there be a worse platform to navigate?), many of us had been closely following the missing paraglider pilot and the tremendous efforts to locate him. You did no wrong by offering up an alternative URL (albeit w/less complete info), but your transparent campaign to slam Facebook was an opportunity you could easily have passed up. Is this how you engage guests in your living room?


Additional information on the accident is now available. The Eureka County Sheriff issued this notice:

The Sheriff’s Office determined his cause of death as multiple blunt force trauma due to a high-elevation fall.
https://www.reviewjournal.com/local/...ficials%20said.
The Sheriff, Jesse Watts, refused to give any further details, citing a request by Johnston's family. However, members of the search team that recovered his body said Johnston did not deploy his emergency reserve chute. Barring suicide, he must have become incapacitated somehow. Hypoxia is high on the list, as it is doubtful they have supplemental oxygen.

These paragliders are notoriously unstable, as can be seen in this video:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EUc-MJngQyg
This video has some pretty disturbing sequences at 1:00 and 1:30 of the wings collapsing with the pilots entangled. An attempted emergency chute deployment is at 23:16.
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Old September 23rd 20, 11:07 PM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
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Default Paraglider pilot missing in eastern Nevada

Additional information on the accident is now available. The Eureka County Sheriff issued this notice:

The Sheriff’s Office determined his cause of death as multiple blunt force trauma due to a high-elevation fall.
https://www.reviewjournal.com/local/...ficials%20said.
The Sheriff, Jesse Watts, refused to give any further details, citing a request by Johnston's family. However, members of the search team that recovered his body said Johnston did not deploy his emergency reserve chute. Barring suicide, he must have become incapacitated somehow. Hypoxia is high on the list, as it is doubtful they have supplemental oxygen.

These paragliders are notoriously unstable, as can be seen in this video:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EUc-MJngQyg
This video has some pretty disturbing sequences at 1:00 and 1:30 of the wings collapsing with the pilots entangled. An attempted emergency chute deployment is at 23:16.


Hypoxia is high on the list, as it is doubtful they have supplemental oxygen.

If you look closely at one of the photos showing the now deceased pilot, he is wearing an oxy-miser canula under his helmet, so I would say that he has supplemental O2 in his rig somewhere.

Uli
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Old September 24th 20, 12:33 AM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
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On Wednesday, September 23, 2020 at 3:07:49 PM UTC-7, AS wrote:
Additional information on the accident is now available. The Eureka County Sheriff issued this notice:

The Sheriff’s Office determined his cause of death as multiple blunt force trauma due to a high-elevation fall.
https://www.reviewjournal.com/local/...ficials%20said.
The Sheriff, Jesse Watts, refused to give any further details, citing a request by Johnston's family. However, members of the search team that recovered his body said Johnston did not deploy his emergency reserve chute. Barring suicide, he must have become incapacitated somehow. Hypoxia is high on the list, as it is doubtful they have supplemental oxygen.

These paragliders are notoriously unstable, as can be seen in this video:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EUc-MJngQyg
This video has some pretty disturbing sequences at 1:00 and 1:30 of the wings collapsing with the pilots entangled. An attempted emergency chute deployment is at 23:16.


Hypoxia is high on the list, as it is doubtful they have supplemental oxygen.

If you look closely at one of the photos showing the now deceased pilot, he is wearing an oxy-miser canula under his helmet, so I would say that he has supplemental O2 in his rig somewhere.

Uli
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Yes, I see it now. Nonetheless, his O2 system could have failed or he, simply, ran out. Regardless, he must have been incapacitated somehow. Here is another updated report:
https://xcmag.com/news/kiwi-johnston...ails-released/
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Old September 24th 20, 01:23 AM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
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O2 should be very low on the list. At the altitude he was flying 14-16K it will mostly give you a headache. Even at 18K, you not going to pass out, especially not someone in physical shape to be able to hike up a mountain and fly a paraglider.
I often see O2 and dehydration high on the list of possible causes, as if you suddenly pass out if you don’t start using O2 at 10K or drink few gallons of water.
I am not going to speculate but there can be many reasons higher on the list.

Ramy
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Old September 24th 20, 04:14 AM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
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I am not going to speculate but there can be many reasons higher on the list.

Ramy


Don't worry, Ramy. There are lots of "expert" speculators on this topic. None of whom have any experience with paragliding or hang gliding. Unlike us, with 20 or more years of foot launch adventures in our logbooks.

Let 'em go. They have proclaimed their expertise and will not be willing to accept differing opinions.

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Old September 24th 20, 04:16 AM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
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The XCMag post suggests he lost consciousness in a spiral dive before the paraglider failed. In a separate accident where the tailplane came off a glider and the canopies remained on, I heard a similar suggestion. GLOC requires a lot of g and I'm not confident that happened in either case.

The YouTube referenced earlier shows one example of a paraglider ditching the wing and popping the reserve. It looks like you need a lot of height before you can get the reserve canopy open.

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Old September 24th 20, 07:29 AM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
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On Wednesday, September 23, 2020 at 5:23:41 PM UTC-7, Ramy wrote:
O2 should be very low on the list. At the altitude he was flying 14-16K it will mostly give you a headache. Even at 18K, you not going to pass out, especially not someone in physical shape to be able to hike up a mountain and fly a paraglider.
I often see O2 and dehydration high on the list of possible causes, as if you suddenly pass out if you don’t start using O2 at 10K or drink few gallons of water.
I am not going to speculate but there can be many reasons higher on the list.

Ramy


Have you taken a hypoxia course with an altitude chamber ride, Ramy? The first thing they tell you is that hypoxia symptoms and effects very widely from one individual to the next. Thus you are the one who is speculating.
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Old September 24th 20, 01:01 PM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
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The XCMag referenced above mentions a "psychedelic community"
involved in fund raising for the search.
What is a psychedelic community?

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Old September 24th 20, 04:20 PM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
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On Thursday, September 24, 2020 at 5:15:06 AM UTC-7, Dave Walsh wrote:
The XCMag referenced above mentions a "psychedelic community"
involved in fund raising for the search.
What is a psychedelic community?


That is a throwback reference to the Timothy Leary recreational drug era 60s.

Tom
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Old September 24th 20, 05:59 PM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
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On Thursday, September 24, 2020 at 2:15:06 PM UTC+2, Dave Walsh wrote:
The XCMag referenced above mentions a "psychedelic community"
involved in fund raising for the search.
What is a psychedelic community?


Well, he wrote some books which were quite popular: https://www.amazon.de/-/en/James-Oroc/dp/1594772991
 




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