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Mark James Boyd wrote:
An ASW-20 has flaps, spoilers, and retract gear. One can simulate gear with a little gear knob with lights found at Sporty's. Maybe fly around with the gear down all the time for a half-dozen, just using the "simulator?" And have your partners check to see if the gear lever is down for landing (you owe them a round if it ain't The real problem for a low time pilot in an ASW-20 isn't complexity. If you put a typical 20 in thermal or landing flap and get a little slow in a turn, it will do a nice spin entry, with a lot less warning and in a more spectacular fashion than most low time pilots are used to. It isn't an issue if you have enough experience to know reflexively what to do, but for those who have trained in and only flown gliders which are reluctant to spin, there are safer choices... Marc |
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Mark,
You have to balance your need against your pocketbook. You seem to have some sense about you so let me offer you another way of looking at aircraft selection that is safe, affordable, and gets you a good glider. Buy what you want to fly and as much as you can afford. If that airplane is an ASW-20, then good. You end up with a good, well-known glider with good parts support and a market to sell into when you are done with it. You don't end up with a useless, out-of-date ship that will keep you from moving up when the time comes because you won't be able to find a buyer. How is this safe? Simple: Get trained by a competent instructor in relevant equipment. When that instructor says you are trained, go fly your glider. Your instructor will show you spins. If you don't think the trainer is similar enough or instructor experienced enough, go find one that is. Then go up and spin your glider. Don't do this the other way around. And as far as retractable gear, there is one sure fire way of assuring yourself that you will always put it down. Don't fly it. A good second choice (but one that can fail) is to develop habits, follow checklists, maintain situational awareness, and double check yourself. Still.... Every pilot started with NO knowledge and NO experience. An extremely small percentage have had accidents. This is because sensible pilots get the training they need. If you don't get instruction and you aren't very smart and you run out of luck, there is nothing on RAS that will help you avoid the inevitable. But, Mark, an ASW-20, like most "high performance" gliders gives you the performance in soaring to have more fun and since most of your time will be flying and not crashing, buy something that will help you accomplish that goal. Just don't assume you know how to do something until an instructor shows you how. John Shelton |
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no, it's not worth it, it's being beneath contempt ;-)
A P --- PW5 Antichrist "Janusz Kesik" wrote in message ... Well... no storm? )) By the way, the PW-5 would be truly perfect for one who has just soloed... Regards, JK |
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On Sat, 13 Dec 2003 00:04:13 +0100, Andreas Maurer
wrote: Well.. if you are not able to handle the full range of the aircraft's controls, you are in danger. There is no sunbstitute for practice and experience. In my club you needed 100 hrs to fly the 20 (after Ka-8, Astir, ASW-15, DG-300 and ASW-24), and this is a value that I'd regard as safe. Just curious (only flown an ASW20 two or three times, a long time ago)- What two-seaters do you train in? Do you have any high performance flapped two-seaters used for advanced training? Something nicely spinnable like a Puchacz for spin training? I agree that it can't be done without practice and experience, I just have a suspicion that what the practice and experience is on may have a bit to do with it. Also training can be pretty useful. -- "Curmudgeonly is the new cool" (Terry Wogan) (The real name at the left of the e-mail address is richard) |
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ANY Schleicher standard class glass would be nice. I bought a 15 and
even though it doesn't have any more performance than the club's two Grob 102's the WAY she flys is pure magic. A version of the Standard Jantar, provided you find it comfortable (I do, many people I have seen try our club's Jantar don't). Don't get an LS4 I'm sure it's a very nice glider to fly but its so generic and faceless you might have trouble picking out your own ship on the airfield. I swear they produced them like plastic model airplane parts an a huge frame and just clipped one off everytime someone ordered one. Or maybe they sold them in Costco by the six-pack. "I'll take 6oo pounds of glider please." "Certainly sir, what colour? "White thank you." Just kidding. |
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