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Old March 20th 05, 10:58 PM
Joseph L. Hyde
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For everyone who is offended at US oriented posts....close this one now.
For those not offended, At our recent pre-season safety meeting it was
brought to our attention that the FAA's glider flying handbook is available
for download for free in PDF format. The word FREE usually gets the
attention of most glider pilots. The URL follows

http://afs600.faa.gov/srchFolder.asp...&cmdScroll =1


Take Care,


Joe Hyde


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Old March 21st 05, 01:54 AM
BTIZ
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sure... just the self printing later.. I keep the electronic copy just to
extract what I need from time to time..

If you'll look, most of the FAA handbooks are available online

BT

"Joseph L. Hyde" wrote in message
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For everyone who is offended at US oriented posts....close this one
now.
For those not offended, At our recent pre-season safety meeting it was
brought to our attention that the FAA's glider flying handbook is
available
for download for free in PDF format. The word FREE usually gets the
attention of most glider pilots. The URL follows

http://afs600.faa.gov/srchFolder.asp...&cmdScroll =1


Take Care,


Joe Hyde




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Old March 21st 05, 03:16 AM
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Joseph L. Hyde wrote:
At our recent pre-season safety meeting it was
brought to our attention that the FAA's glider flying handbook is

available
for download for free in PDF format.



Free is nice but it is too bad the handbook is so full of errors and
mis-information. Who ever had the final editing responsibility failed
totally.

Can you believe an official FAA publication shows tow rings attached to
tow ropes with knots? Where in the world did they get that from?

That is just the start.

Robert Mudd

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Old March 21st 05, 04:40 AM
BTIZ
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Can you believe an official FAA publication shows tow rings attached to
tow ropes with knots? Where in the world did they get that from?


guess they forgot how to do splices

BT


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Old March 21st 05, 06:14 AM
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It is one thing for a glider operator do use knots but is a whole other
level of stupidity for the FAA to print the picture in their offical
Glider Handbook.

Robert Mudd

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Old March 21st 05, 01:38 PM
Joseph L. Hyde
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I would suggest that people involved in instruction in the US
familiarize themselves with this document. Errors notwithstanding, now that
the FAA has published a training manual it is sure bet it will become the
source of the examination material.

Joe


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It is one thing for a glider operator do use knots but is a whole other
level of stupidity for the FAA to print the picture in their offical
Glider Handbook.

Robert Mudd



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Old March 21st 05, 08:06 PM
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Naturally for testing purposes you have to feed back to the FAA the
information they use in their handbook.

I just hope we actually do a better job of teaching our students and
passing on correct information in the context of gliding than the FAA
does.

Robert

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Old March 21st 05, 06:47 PM
Doug
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Either that or it's just one more way for the FAA to shut down the glider
op. if there is a PTT via a ropebreak and you did NOT use knots as shown in
their official Glider Handbook.

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It is one thing for a glider operator do use knots but is a whole other
level of stupidity for the FAA to print the picture in their offical
Glider Handbook.

Robert Mudd



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Old March 21st 05, 12:28 PM
Pat Russell
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My club hires wenches to tie those knots.
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Old March 23rd 05, 02:37 AM
David R.
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Actually, those ropes come from the gliderport that I fly at.

They did the work in a university lab to show that the rope design works
well with knots at both ends and an appropriate device to make the glider
end weaker then the tow plain end as well.

They have the documents to back it up too.

The Pics come from there because a couple of the writers were flying from
that glider port at the time. In fact nearly all of the pics are from this
glider port.

Over the five years that I've flown at this glider port, the ropes have
worked very well and most anyone can re-tie the knot when the rope starts to
look worn.

If you care to contact me offline, we can discuss more

regards

dave r.





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Joseph L. Hyde wrote:
At our recent pre-season safety meeting it was
brought to our attention that the FAA's glider flying handbook is

available
for download for free in PDF format.



Free is nice but it is too bad the handbook is so full of errors and
mis-information. Who ever had the final editing responsibility failed
totally.

Can you believe an official FAA publication shows tow rings attached to
tow ropes with knots? Where in the world did they get that from?

That is just the start.

Robert Mudd



 




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