Iran resumes atomic work, escalates crisis

Iran resumes atomic work, escalates crisis:

http://www.itszone.co.uk/zone0/viewtopic.php?t=39818

Who's Behind the Coming War With Iran?:

http://www.antiwar.com/orig/horton.php?articleid=6888

http://nomorewarforisrael.blogspot.com

US Support of Israel is the Gorilla in the Room:


http://representativepress.blogspot....pport-for.html

The following URL includes the latest that I have on Plame-gate:

http://www.warwithoutend.co.uk/zone0...ic.php?t=38213

On Mon, 8 Aug 2005 23:53:49 -0700, Truthseeker wrote
(in article . com):


http://representativepress.blogspot....is-us-support-

for.html

The following URL includes the latest that I have on Plame-gate:

http://www.warwithoutend.co.uk/zone0...ic.php?t=38213

Plame-gate? You mean the top secret CIA operative married to an ambassador
and she comes and goes from an office at Langly but somehow was so low on
everybody's watch list that she could run a covert network? And her maiden
name is in Who's Who? If the people she was spying on are that dumb, then
"revealing" her CIA connection won't make any difference.

-- Charlie Springer

What did you expect from a bunch of terrorist sponsor nation? Peace,
goodwill towards mankind?
Iran lies at the heart of Mideast turmoil and hates the very existence
of Israel (like most other Arab/Islamic states).
They will continue delay tactics until they can get a small arsenal of
nukes. Believe me, this has NOTHING to do with Iranian national pride
or defense but only to proliferate nukes to the point that one is for
sale to or given freely to an Islamic extremist who will smuggle one
into Israel and detonate it.
If EVER there was a time to pre-emptive strike, it is NOW.
Major war in the Mideast was predicted back in the 1970s and an East vs
West/Judeo-Christianity vs Islam war by the 1990s. We now live in those
times and war in inevitable in that region (given the number of tyrant
leaders who rob their own people and harbor/train terrorists on their
soil).
So, what is the alternative? Sit on our asses or consult with the weak,
powerless, impotent UN?
Wait for Europe (who only cares about its business contracts in the
region) to "make a deal with the Devil?" Or, follow the Israeli example
and lay their nuclear ambitions waste?
I favor the latter, using nukes or not. That may sound harsh but what
exactly do you think the outcry would be if Tel Aviv, London, D.C., or
NYC were hit by a nuclear suicide bomber?
Or should we wait for China and N Korea to develop longer range 3-stage
missiles capable of hitting CONUS? I live in northern California and we
will be in range within a matter of years from both of these nations.
National security is hardly "war-mongering" after 9/11...

Rob

On 9 Aug 2005 08:21:42 -0700, "Rob Arndt" wrote:

Iran lies at the heart of Mideast turmoil and hates the very existence
of Israel (like most other Arab/Islamic states).

And with some justification. Israel is not some shining white knight
in the area. Address that issue and it *will* help the attitiudes of a
lot of muslims.

Or should we wait for China and N Korea to develop longer range 3-stage
missiles capable of hitting CONUS? I live in northern California and we
will be in range within a matter of years from both of these nations.
National security is hardly "war-mongering" after 9/11...

Too late. China already has a few ICBMs that are capable of hitting
large parts of CONUS.
--
Peter Kemp

"Life is short...drink faster"

Three Cruise Missles, And that Nuke Plant will be put back Ten Years .
What year did The Isreali Air Force Bomb it ?

Peter Kemp wrote:
On 9 Aug 2005 08:21:42 -0700, "Rob Arndt" wrote:

Iran lies at the heart of Mideast turmoil and hates the very existence
of Israel (like most other Arab/Islamic states).

And with some justification. Israel is not some shining white knight
in the area. Address that issue and it *will* help the attitiudes of a
lot of muslims.

He's right ofcourse, especially that Israel's existence is at the very
heart of those attitudes. The arabs habe proven remarkably generous -
just leave them alone and they're willing to excise the problem
themselves.

Or should we wait for China and N Korea to develop longer range 3-stage
missiles capable of hitting CONUS? I live in northern California and we
will be in range within a matter of years from both of these nations.

Since we spent years within range of Russian missiles and planes, I
doubt that would be all that dramatic a development.

National security is hardly "war-mongering" after 9/11...

Too late. China already has a few ICBMs that are capable of hitting
large parts of CONUS.

See what I wrote above - the ability to hit any part of CONUS is hardly
illustrative of power. Besides, assuming that they hit us and manage
not to draw so much as a firecracker in response, just what glorious
future is there for a China thats just disintegrated much of its
customers

--
Peter Kemp

"Life is short...drink faster"

On the Road to World War 3 (for Israel and oil in accordance with
JINSA/CSP/PNAC Neocon agenda):

http://www.itszone.co.uk/zone0/viewtopic.php?t=39862

http://nomorewarforisrael.blogspot.com

"just what glorious future is there for a China thats just disintegrated
much of its
customers'

Making new ones!



"FatKat" wrote in message
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Peter Kemp wrote:
On 9 Aug 2005 08:21:42 -0700, "Rob Arndt" wrote:

Iran lies at the heart of Mideast turmoil and hates the very existence
of Israel (like most other Arab/Islamic states).

And with some justification. Israel is not some shining white knight
in the area. Address that issue and it *will* help the attitiudes of a
lot of muslims.

He's right ofcourse, especially that Israel's existence is at the very
heart of those attitudes. The arabs habe proven remarkably generous -
just leave them alone and they're willing to excise the problem
themselves.

Or should we wait for China and N Korea to develop longer range 3-stage
missiles capable of hitting CONUS? I live in northern California and we
will be in range within a matter of years from both of these nations.

Since we spent years within range of Russian missiles and planes, I
doubt that would be all that dramatic a development.

National security is hardly "war-mongering" after 9/11...

Too late. China already has a few ICBMs that are capable of hitting
large parts of CONUS.

See what I wrote above - the ability to hit any part of CONUS is hardly
illustrative of power. Besides, assuming that they hit us and manage
not to draw so much as a firecracker in response, just what glorious
future is there for a China thats just disintegrated much of its
customers

--
Peter Kemp

"Life is short...drink faster"

Ahhh The Bright (sic) One Returns?

How does your mind operate in that vacuum?




"Charlie Springer" wrote in message
rytel.net...
On Mon, 8 Aug 2005 23:53:49 -0700, Truthseeker wrote
(in article . com):



http://representativepress.blogspot....m-is-us-suppor
t-

for.html

The following URL includes the latest that I have on Plame-gate:

http://www.warwithoutend.co.uk/zone0...ic.php?t=38213

Plame-gate? You mean the top secret CIA operative married to an ambassador
and she comes and goes from an office at Langly but somehow was so low on
everybody's watch list that she could run a covert network? And her maiden
name is in Who's Who? If the people she was spying on are that dumb, then
"revealing" her CIA connection won't make any difference.

-- Charlie Springer

Truthseeker wrote:
Iran resumes atomic work, escalates crisis:

http://www.itszone.co.uk/zone0/viewtopic.php?t=39818

A crisis? I'm beginning to wonder. The press has gotten to the
point of crying the sky is falling every five minutes. Iran does
not think that the US will take military action and if the US does take
action it will be limited and only cement the power of the right-wingers.
Unlike the Western powers they aren't afraid of taking casualties.
Now, if they thought their government buildings might be flattened with
them in them or that the US actually would invade to establish democracy
they might desist in nuke developement but they think that America has
shot its wad by its expenditure of resources in Iraq and does not have
the will to invade or even bomb...and therefore they are willing to take
the calculated risk.
And there is a possibility that the US really doesn't fear Iran's
nuclear power but is just using the "crisis" as a political chess piece.
Who's Behind the Coming War With Iran?:

http://www.antiwar.com/orig/horton.php?articleid=6888

No one. Its not going to happen unless something extreme happens such as
another successful terrorist attack that really ****es off the US.

http://nomorewarforisrael.blogspot.com

US Support of Israel is the Gorilla in the Room:

Well, the US is not going to stop supporting Israel. If it was nothing
else, it would just a matter of national pride. The US will not abandon
Israel even in the face of nuclear threat.
It is just a fact everyone needs to get used to.


http://representativepress.blogspot....pport-for.html

The following URL includes the latest that I have on Plame-gate:

http://www.warwithoutend.co.uk/zone0...ic.php?t=38213

I am politically independent, but the more I have read about the
situation, the more disgusting the actions of Rove and Novak appear. I
used to like Novak, but regardless of how "harmless" the particular
action turned out to be, even if Plame was not an active 'operative',
the mere fact that Rove and Novak would "out" any member of the CIA for
any purpose is utterly rephrehensible. It is a sign of supreme
arrogance. Both of these men have proven themselves to have no class
and are an embarrassment to the nation.