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On air conversation about JFK controller - Video
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On air conversation about JFK controller - Video
On Mar 8, 8:30*am, Mxsmanic wrote:
Yes, but you still need to be able to survive on your own, as the comforting voice of ATC won't necessarily be there when things turn bad. How do you know that? You have never been a pilot in command of a real aircraft in real time.. You are a child who plays with toys and then pretends to know what real pilots think and do... |
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On air conversation about JFK controller - Video
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Hash: SHA1 Mxsmanic wrote: writes: WHAT FACTS DO YOU BASE MOTIVATION of the ATC controller on? Facts? None of the interpretations of his actions are objectively verifiable. And you fail to get that OTHER PILOTS WERE ON THE SAME FREQUENCY. The interpretations of his actions are HIGHLY verifiable, whereas your statements to the contrary are not, and only are your OPINION. The FAA, NATCA, those other pilots, and that Delta State pilot can EASILY say otherwise. Some people think he saved her life, others don't. I think she would have survived with or without his help. She didn't sound nearly as panicked or incompetent as people insist that she was. In fact, I was surprised by how un-upset she seemed after all the hype I had heard about the incident. By all means. Please list those 'others' who don't think he saved her life. We're all waiting with baited breath. If you want to ask for facts, you need to be prepared to provide them as well. In this case, the evaluation of what he did is necessarily and unavoidably subjective. Practice what you preach. Please provide your facts to state otherwise. Oh BTW, comforting voice from ATC is A TON of help in the real world of FLYING. I talk from first hand experience!!!!!!! Yes, but you still need to be able to survive on your own, as the comforting voice of ATC won't necessarily be there when things turn bad. Things turned bad for this pilot. Things turned bad for the other pilots who were saved by the controllers who won Archie Awards in their respective regions. And since you weren't in the sky with the pilot, nor were you not sitting in the cab or at the TRACON or at the ARTCC, you can't say otherwise that ATC's help there wouldn't help pilots in distress to make it and survive. BL. - -- Brad Littlejohn | Email: Unix Systems Administrator, | Web + NewsMaster, BOFH.. Smeghead! | http://www.wizard.com/~tyketto PGP: 1024D/E319F0BF 6980 AAD6 7329 E9E6 D569 F620 C819 199A E319 F0BF -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.10 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFLlA7vyBkZmuMZ8L8RAqxBAJ0SIri90noa/sFrq4xhlXSxhf9vagCg6pTt RK+JU2tzppEFmHeZ38F5LN8= =TD7L -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- |
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On air conversation about JFK controller - Video
Mxsmanic wrote:
ATC frequencies are not for chats or discussions. Which regulations prohibit them? |
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On air conversation about JFK controller - Video
On Mar 7, 1:30*pm, Mxsmanic wrote:
writes: Yes, but you still need to be able to survive on your own, as the comforting voice of ATC won't necessarily be there when things turn bad. WRONG!!!!!!! WRONG!!!!! and more WRONG!!!! YOU DIDN'T EVEN READ MY EXPERIENCE DID YOU????????????????? If you want to ask for facts, you need to be prepared to provide them as well. In this case, the evaluation of what he did is necessarily and unavoidably subjective. I PROVIDED MY FACTS BASED ON FIRST HAND EXPERIENCE. YOU HAVE PROVIDED ZERO, NADA. I WANT YOUR FACTS to show the controller did not help save a life (two lives in this case). If you plan to make an opinion OR EVEN APPEAR CREDIBLE, please provide the sources of FACTS that support your opinion. You never talked to the controller, you NEVER talked to the pilot did you??????????? It seems I hear the sound of crickets will be forthcoming from the inaction of providing facts for Mx opinion support |
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On air conversation about JFK controller - Video
Jim Logajan writes:
Which regulations prohibit them? See FAA JO 7210.3W, Section 2. |
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On air conversation about JFK controller - Video
Mxsmanic wrote:
Jim Logajan writes: Which regulations prohibit them? See FAA JO 7210.3W, Section 2. First, this is not a regulation. Second, it doesn't have "Sections", it has parts and chapters. And, lastly, this is work instructions for operating air traffic facilities and has nothing to do with pilots. -- Jim Pennino Remove .spam.sux to reply. |
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On air conversation about JFK controller - Video
On Mar 7, 6:13*pm, Mxsmanic wrote:
Jim Logajan writes: Which regulations prohibit them? See FAA JO 7210.3W, Section 2. There are 7 section 2's What PAGE number does it say in the 448 page document what is PROHIBITED to be said on frequency. There are 31 occurrences of the word prohibited in the document of which NONE say idle talk or chat is PROHIBITED that I can see. |
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On air conversation about JFK controller - Video
On Sun, 7 Mar 2010 12:07:04 -0800 (PST), george wrote:
On Mar 8, 8:30*am, Mxsmanic wrote: Yes, but you still need to be able to survive on your own, as the comforting voice of ATC won't necessarily be there when things turn bad. How do you know that? You have never been a pilot in command of a real aircraft in real time.. You are a child who plays with toys and then pretends to know what real pilots think and do... What do you call an idiot (you) who responds to a moron (him). RetardoTeam. A pair of diaper ****ting retards. -- http://tr.im/1f9p |
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On air conversation about JFK controller - Video
On Mar 10, 7:50*am, Tiger Would wrote:
What do you call an idiot (you) who responds to a moron (him). Have you stopped beating your wife ? |
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