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Old August 30th 06, 11:21 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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"Darkwing" theducksmail"AT"yahoo.com wrote in message
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http://www.nevadaappeal.com/article/...0025/-1/REGION


WoW !!!

For once, I wish that there were more pictures of the damage to the jet, and
some pictures of the glider "remains."

Although that the details will come out as time goes by, it looks like the
article was very well written, unusually, for a news report of an aviation
accident. I'll be interested in the following stories of the event.
--
Jim in NC

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Old August 30th 06, 11:32 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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Morgans schrieb:

For once, I wish that there were more pictures of the damage to the jet, and
some pictures of the glider "remains."


http://img237.imageshack.us/img237/4683/11dy6.jpg
http://img237.imageshack.us/img237/5328/5oy9.jpg
http://img237.imageshack.us/img237/2266/dscf0034vm0.jpg
http://img237.imageshack.us/img237/2240/14nx6.jpg

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Old August 30th 06, 11:33 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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Stefan wrote:
Ron Natalie schrieb:

What we apparently have here (from preliminary data) is a massive
failure of see-and-avoid on the behalf of both parties.


Agreed. But, while no glider pilot I know would insist on his right: The
glider had the right of way.


Who the hell said anything about right of way here. Both aircraft have
a duty to see and avoid. The category preference only applies to
aircraft converging from other than head on (apply directly to the
forehead). I'm sure the NTSB will give study as to what the actual
tracks were and what the visual vantages were from both ships.
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Old August 30th 06, 11:33 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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Stefan wrote:
Ron Natalie schrieb:

What we apparently have here (from preliminary data) is a massive
failure of see-and-avoid on the behalf of both parties.


Agreed. But, while no glider pilot I know would insist on his right: The
glider had the right of way.


Who the hell said anything about right of way here. Both aircraft have
a duty to see and avoid. The category preference only applies to
aircraft converging from other than head on (apply directly to the
forehead). I'm sure the NTSB will give study as to what the actual
tracks were and what the visual vantages were from both ships.
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Old August 30th 06, 11:44 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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In article ,
Stefan wrote:

http://img237.imageshack.us/img237/4683/11dy6.jpg
http://img237.imageshack.us/img237/5328/5oy9.jpg
http://img237.imageshack.us/img237/2266/dscf0034vm0.jpg
http://img237.imageshack.us/img237/2240/14nx6.jpg


Is that the reminants of a carbon fiber spar protruding from the top
left side of the nose ahead of the windscreen?
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Old August 30th 06, 11:47 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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john smith schrieb:

Is that the reminants of a carbon fiber spar protruding from the top
left side of the nose ahead of the windscreen?


They say so.

Stefan
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Old August 31st 06, 12:57 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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On Thu, 31 Aug 2006 00:47:14 +0200, Stefan
wrote:

john smith schrieb:

Is that the reminants of a carbon fiber spar protruding from the top
left side of the nose ahead of the windscreen?


They say so.

Stefan



While I have no idea how the glider pilot survived this, looking at
the pics, it seems as though the pilot is a very lucky lady too.

z
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Old August 31st 06, 01:09 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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Ron Natalie schrieb:

The glider had the right of way.


Who the hell said anything about right of way here.


It was meant to be an indirect answer to Kingfish who asked what a
glider did up there.

Stefan
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Old August 31st 06, 01:38 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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I would have to believe this is going to be a no falt accident. This is a
freek.
"Ron Natalie" wrote in message
m...
Stefan wrote:
Ron Natalie schrieb:

What we apparently have here (from preliminary data) is a massive
failure of see-and-avoid on the behalf of both parties.


Agreed. But, while no glider pilot I know would insist on his right: The
glider had the right of way.


Who the hell said anything about right of way here. Both aircraft have
a duty to see and avoid. The category preference only applies to
aircraft converging from other than head on (apply directly to the
forehead). I'm sure the NTSB will give study as to what the actual
tracks were and what the visual vantages were from both ships.



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Old August 31st 06, 01:51 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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Stefan wrote:



It was meant to be an indirect answer to Kingfish who asked what a
glider did up there.


He glid.

 




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