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Maxie begins a new kook-out.were.... Airliner crashes into HudsonRiver after LGA departure
Bertie the Bunyip wrote: Bob Officer wrote No one can fault Scully. He has exactly the same number of take offs and landings. That he swam away from his last with no loss passengers and crew is a good thing. At the end of the day, tha's all that counts. There are those who would try and tamper with success, though. Evel fjukkers. We have an obscene name for them, so if any reader is of a timid disposition, they had best look away now. We call them.. Management pilots. Engineers call them the 'suits'. Graham |
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Maxie begins a new kook-out.were.... Airliner crashes into Hudson River after LGA departure
Bob Officer pinched out a steaming pile
: On Sat, 24 Jan 2009 15:37:43 -0700, in alt.usenet.kooks, §ñühw¤£f wrote: In message , Bob Officer wrote: On Sat, 24 Jan 2009 09:57:44 -0600, in alt.usenet.kooks, §ñühw¤£f wrote: Bob Officer pinched out a steaming pile : On Fri, 23 Jan 2009 16:39:39 -0700, in alt.usenet.kooks, §ñühw¤£f wrote: In message , Bob Officer wrote: On Fri, 23 Jan 2009 10:11:06 -0600, in alt.usenet.kooks, §ñühw¤£f wrote: Bob Officer pinched out a steaming pile : On Thu, 22 Jan 2009 09:49:33 -0600, in alt.usenet.kooks, §ñühw¤£f wrote: Bob Officer pinched out a steaming pile : On Wed, 21 Jan 2009 15:36:12 -0700, in alt.usenet.kooks, §ñühw¤£f wrote: In message , Bob Officer wrote: On Wed, 21 Jan 2009 09:31:50 -0600, in alt.usenet.kooks, §ñühw¤£f wrote: Bob Officer pinched out a steaming pile : On Tue, 20 Jan 2009 09:31:29 -0600, in alt.usenet.kooks, §ñühw¤£f wrote: Bob Officer pinched out a steaming pile : On Mon, 19 Jan 2009 18:20:16 +0000 (UTC), in alt.usenet.kooks, Bertie the Bunyip wrote: §ñühw¤£f wrote in news:t96dnQfJw- : Bertie the Bunyip pinched out a steaming pile : "Scott M. Kozel" wrote in news:gkvte8$eth$1 : §ñühw¤£f wrote: I propose a technological solution to the problem of bird strikes: turboprops. Lets return to the good old days pre-jet engines. Well ... while the L-188 Lockheed Electra example is a turboprop, the above poster apparently didn't realize that a turboprop engine has a jet engine. Discuss. The large piston engines were incredibly complex, and generally could drive airliners at only about half the speed of those with the pure jet engines. yes, but they were so much more fun Bertie Ok ok...totally *genius* idea: dirigibles. Excellent. I'll sign on for a course. Yeah, think on that for a while. Its either that or the locomotive, chaps. Only if it's a real one. i.e. Steam No! Hell no! And what pray tell is wrong with steam? Steam locomotives? Everything. Well man spit it out! Lets not play guessing games here! Have you ever been on a working steam locomotive? Not while its running. I have. Didja get to be the shovelman? No the engine had a working feed system. I do believe when Dad Fired steam on the L&N they had "stokers" that hand fed the coal if the feed broke or didn't work. Originally an operating crew would be the engineer, firemen, and if they had cars, a conductor and brakemen for every x numbers of cars on the territory. Stokers were not really members of "the crew", but worked under the direction of the Locomotive Firemen. The Engineer operated the locomotive and was responsible for the trains safe operation. The Conductor was in charge of cars and the contents, there of and the assignment and positioning of his brake men. The brakes on the train were set (by hand) at the direction of the engineer. (all those whistle signals.) Then the airbrakes came about, the need for multiple brakemen for x number of cars. Yeah..."improvements" to the system cut manpower. now all you have is one or two people per train trying to stay awake. So much for "progress". You don't know the half of it... The roundhouse up in essex was taken down and people lost jobs. Every time theres some manpower saving device, people loose jobs. Eventually we'll all sit at home or whatever and the robots will do everything. Yep and if things don't done exactly right... Well the last big accident in the news was the guy on a cell phone in Los Angeles or nearby and that was *human* error. The robots cant do much worse. Human Stupidity. The man didn't have his priorities right. Indeed. SO if you eliminate the human element... You have a programer to blame... The "trains" will be AI transforming robots....ala the Transformers. Oh yeah. They are very dirty (producing soot and ash. Very noisy. (usually about 90-105 dB. They get louder under full power) Yeap. Coal fired mostly. One coal and everything else was oil. Leave us not forget *wood*...it was plentiful once across the country. Most all locomotive engineers from the steam era were deaf. and suffered breathing problems. My granpa was one So was mine, and so was my Dad. Go Union! However That wasn't how it worked. Grandad worked the Rock Island St Louis to Sikeston he retired at 65 with something like 50 years of service. Pop worked for the L&N @ Cleveland, Tn. Then he came west during WW2. He went to work for the SP and retired with 45+ years of combined service. There was 20 months of military service, and he was discharged because of heart murmur. Still...back in the day...those *were* good jobs. At least you had some security. Downsizing wasn't the norm. Now, its "oh ****, the passenger load has dropped off by 5%, lets fire a bunch of people and cut service". up until about 1990 there was a seasonal flow. As the business would ebb people in operating crafts would be cut off/layed off. Then called back in senority order. Some would stick around and others would find work eslewhere and wouldn't come back. Around here lots of kids put themselves through college working all summer for the RR and then getting cut off right up until the xmas rush. Then they would be cutoff until the summer. here is even an area where they kids would work only the weekends getting cut off every monday morning and called back every friday night. Part timers get no bennies, sure. If they worked one day a month... they had the health bennies. almost everyone worked one day a month. the only time I didn't was, away on Active Military Duty or when I was off injured on duty. I still got bennies then. Well...obviously I know absolutely nothing about this subject. Not that it would stop me I understand that. That, however, would make a great T-Shirt. Usenet Confession: "Well...obviously I know absolutely nothing about this subject. Not that it would stop me " or Signature Lets call it "Snuhwolf's Edict". ^_^ But it did make a great siggy, eh? Its not kewl to quote yerself in a sigfile. It would generally take a person 5-7 years before they could work year round. 10-12 before they could work regular jobs on a temporay basis. and 20 plus to hold any sort of regular job on a year round basis. Railroad reschedual work on a need be basis (within the scope of the union contracts) so their is a big degree of non-control. They are subject tot he demands and needs of the shippers. Floriduh just gave CSX a big huge contract. good bad for the everglades or something, iirc. or it takes from the general fund and the poor need the money more. Deaf as hell but no breathing problems...he didnt know who the **** I was later since he was all alzheimersy & stuff. My dad died from lung cancer (both Small Cell Carcinoma and Metastasized melanoma. Bummer...the smoke was it? Asbestos and/or smoke. Me-so-thee-lee-oh-ma. nods You got it. Well I hope not I hope so too. ugly way to go. Libby Montana knows a thing or two about aSSbest0s... **** WR Grace to hell. Most all locomotive engineers from the diesel era still suffer hearing loss. Most all operating employees for railroads with more than 10 years of service have some hearing loss. About ten years ago the railroads started losing lawsuits over hearing losses and started a hearing conservation program. Too bad it was 27 years too late. YEah...back in the day it was a macho job and you didnt **** & moan about the conditions. The ****ed and moaned even then. I've listen to those guys all my life. no...they laughed at management...but as for crying about the conditions? Yep the ****ed and moaned about that too. Well yer fambly wasn't "stoic" then. all to often the conditions were what you could make them. the trouble is most of the people were content to work in substandard conditions. After the union busting in Bisbee Arizona in 1910 or so...sure...beats getting put on box cars, taken into the desert, and shot by thugs. So much for freedom taken for granted, isn't it. Union busting was a violent and oft forgotten part of american history. Trying to organise could get you killed, back in the day. No real railroader would complain "its too tough". Being gone most of the time? Missing their families? If it wasn't for the "good money", they would have left. My grandpa was lucky then. He worked one line and was home often enough...GNRY. Dad was gone from home about 60% of the nights. The road work had a layover at the away from home point. It was almost like a second home for him. Did he have a second wife? Only after he divorced his 1st wife. Ouch. I ran across a stat for operating crew marriage expectancy. They usually last less than 10 years. We have one guy that's working on his 7th marriage most are on their third... I'm still working on my 1st. The rate was 1:35 marriages last until retirement. 50% of new marriage failing the 1st two years. Possible solution: mormonism. Have a wife at each endpoint. Problem *solved*. I don't know if Flight Crews have the same problems? Thats what the stewardesses ar for. I wouldn't say that out loud, especially if I was going to fly in the foreseeable future. I'm betting theres a watch lits with my name already... The stats might change now that the railroads started hiring and training new employees. Most of the new hires are ex-military and don't stay more than a year or so and most are divorced already. Hopefully they wont be ptsd and have flashbacks. Hopefully... Just increase I have prepared a few signs with arrows. Directing people to the management office's (invoking Garvin's Rule allow management to take the all blame, all the time) HR needs to keep busy. Most new hires are still pumped up and brain washed. They do not make good employees. Brain washed by what? Military. Follow all instructions, without question. Oh that. How many still act like that after they quit service? Today the railroad has cut its pay for new hires to 30%. Wages have effectively dropped since 1985 to about 65% of what they were compared to pre-1985. The employees with seniority (like me) have made up for this by just working trips. I now work 25 days a month compared to the 18-19 days I worked before 1985. The cry was a demand for more productivity. the Grace commission of Ronnie agreed. The funny thing is while productivity went up wages decreased. The number of working employees decreased and got the average age increased. this increased the health care costs and over the next 4 contracts the carriers cried about the increases to health care cost. (the fact the employees health care increases because of increase of work stress also was ignored.) I ****ing hated Reagan. His passing made me smile The only thing was he never felt the pain he caused. The idiot would cut firewood for fun. did he realize his actions created a group of people that were cutting firewood just to feed their families. He lived in a lovely 1950's family show that played in his head. The world to him was just one big Leave It to Beaver episode. or Father Knows Best. I think he felt himself more like Ozzie Nelson. If you watch the way he spoke, it was much of the same phrase tempo. Some of the nicest people are really assholes. ^_^ I've heard that. But then I don't thing they are that nice to start with. How can you tell what an actor's real character is like. Take away his script? Some can act impromptu, ad lib and improvise. Ronny slept a lot. When he was awake it was 1950...all over again. Mainly because alzheimers victims cant rmember anything in the *recent* past so they go back to what they know & rememebr. Biggest complaints from crews which still use those 1st and 2nd generation locomotives, noise and exhaust fumes in the cab. Ever seen a track weasel? I seen just about everything. including the look on a kids face just after he finally looked up and saw the locomotive, just before it hit him. Ugh. Musta been a deaf kid. Nope, listening to his ipod at full volume. Holy shnikeies!!! I just said "****!" Sad. It was. When the conductor and brakemen went back to look, then found his Ipod laying near the impact sight, still playing at full volume. He was listening to some sort of Rap. ZOMGZ! I *knew* it! "Rap kills". That's a valid assumption. It wasn't the train that killed him, it was the Rap! Ipods are dangerous and should be banned. nods Well, I use an mp3 player to feed my music selections into the Car or Boats music player. I have an 80 gb device. It also works as a spare back-up. stores my Navigation Maps/RIS files. Counseled use. User beware doing *this* could result in *bad* things. Ban in-car video screens in the front seat area. OOPS! There goes the OnStar screen in moms caddy. and those GPS units. Only if they are voice operated or heads-up on the windsheild projection type. Heads up displays like in fighter aircraft should have made it to cars by now....really. Really. Stuff life speedo should have been there already. I think theres a heads up display in a bmw or something... -- http://www.bds-palestine.net/?q=node/9 ___ ___ ___ ___ /\__\ /\ \ /\ \ /\ \ /:/ _/_ \:\ \ \:\ \ \:\ \ /:/ /\ \ \:\ \ \:\ \ \:\ \ /:/ /::\ \ _____\:\ \ ___ \:\ \ ___ /::\ \ /:/_/:/\:\__\ /::::::::\__\ /\ \ \:\__\ /\ /:/\:\__\ \:\/:/ /:/ / \:\~~\~~\/__/ \:\ \ /:/ / \:\/:/ \/__/ \::/ /:/ / \:\ \ \:\ /:/ / \::/__/ \/_/:/ / \:\ \ \:\/:/ / \:\ \ /:/ / \:\__\ \::/ / \:\__\ |
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Maxie begins a new kook-out.was: what do Okies eat anyhow?
§ñühw¤£f wrote in news:KKSdnSVXEOL-
: Bertie the Bunyip pinched out a steaming pile : §ñühw¤£f wrote in news:kcednUrkk7gzpebUnZ2dnUVZ_tninZ2d@centurytel .net: Bertie the Bunyip pinched out a steaming pile : §ñühw¤£f wrote in : In message , Bertie the Bunyip wrote: §ñühw¤£f wrote in news:l_WdnfjqXdGNd- : Bob Officer pinched out a steaming pile : On Fri, 23 Jan 2009 01:00:35 +0000 (UTC), in alt.usenet.kooks, Bertie the Bunyip wrote: §ñühw¤£f wrote in news:BrOdnXm6qpDgCeXUnZ2dnUVZ_jGdnZ2d@centuryte l.net: Bertie the Bunyip pinched out a steaming pile : §ñühw¤£f wrote in : In message , Bob Officer wrote: On Wed, 21 Jan 2009 09:31:50 -0600, in alt.usenet.kooks, §ñühw¤£f wrote: Bob Officer pinched out a steaming pile : On Tue, 20 Jan 2009 09:31:29 -0600, in alt.usenet.kooks, §ñühw¤£f wrote: Bob Officer pinched out a steaming pile : On Mon, 19 Jan 2009 18:20:16 +0000 (UTC), in alt.usenet.kooks, Bertie the Bunyip wrote: §ñühw¤£f wrote in news:t96dnQfJw- : Bertie the Bunyip pinched out a steaming pile : "Scott M. Kozel" wrote in news:gkvte8$eth$1 @news.motzarella.org: §ñühw¤£f wrote: I propose a technological solution to the problem of bird strikes: turboprops. Lets return to the good old days pre-jet engines. Well ... while the L-188 Lockheed Electra example is a turboprop, the above poster apparently didn't realize that a turboprop engine has a jet engine. Discuss. The large piston engines were incredibly complex, and generally could drive airliners at only about half the speed of those with the pure jet engines. yes, but they were so much more fun Bertie Ok ok...totally *genius* idea: dirigibles. Excellent. I'll sign on for a course. Yeah, think on that for a while. Its either that or the locomotive, chaps. Only if it's a real one. i.e. Steam No! Hell no! And what pray tell is wrong with steam? Steam locomotives? Everything. Well man spit it out! Lets not play guessing games here! Have you ever been on a working steam locomotive? Not while its running. They are very dirty (producing soot and ash. Very noisy. (usually about 90-105 dB. They get louder under full power) Yeap. Coal fired mostly. Most all locomotive engineers from the steam era were deaf. and suffered breathing problems. My granpa was one Deaf as hell but no breathing problems...he didnt know who the **** I was later since he was all alzheimersy & stuff. Most all locomotive engineers from the diesel era still suffer hearing loss. Most all operating employees for railroads with more than 10 years of service have some hearing loss. About ten years ago the railroads started losing lawsuits over hearing losses and started a hearing conservation program. Too bad it was 27 years too late. YEah...back in the day it was a macho job and you didnt **** & moan about the conditions. Biggest complaints from crews which still use those 1st and 2nd generation locomotives, noise and exhaust fumes in the cab. Ever seen a track weasel? Mm, no. I seem to remeber hearing the term, though. What is it? back in the olden days the trains toilet dumped straight onto the tracks...the TP that persisted was called a "track weasel". OK never heard of that. ANd now it's lodged in my head forever. When will I learn? Would the same thing happen if the blue ice sublimated leaving only the residue floating in the air? Didnt airlines used to just dump straight out the plane? IIRC people & things were getting hit with GIANT ICEY TURD- CUBES. shudder Well, yes and no. There was a vent that sometimes woudl develop an icicle, but it wasn't supposed to do that! MOMMY MOMMY I FOUND A COMET!!!111!!!! Do aliens use tampons??? What didyou think comets were? Surely the big string trailing behind gave you a clue? Its cosmic poop... 0_0 Or, a new Okie delicacy. WITH A SIDE OF KUDZU!!!!!1111!!!!! And tar, Bertie |
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Turboprops
On Jan 24, 4:41*pm, Bear Bottoms wrote:
On Mon, 19 Jan 2009 09:21:13 -0600, §ñühw¤£f wrote: * * * * ___ * * * * * ___ * * * * * ___ * * * * * ___ * * * * */\__\ * * * * /\ *\ * * * * /\ *\ * * * * /\ *\ * * * * /:/ _/_ * * * *\:\ *\ * * * *\:\ *\ * * * *\:\ *\ * * * */:/ /\ *\ * * * *\:\ *\ * * * *\:\ *\ * * * *\:\ *\ * * * /:/ /::\ *\ * _____\:\ *\ * ___ *\:\ *\ * ___ /::\ *\ * * */:/_/:/\:\__\ /::::::::\__\ /\ *\ *\:\__\ /\ */:/\:\__\ * * *\:\/:/ /:/ */ \:\~~\~~\/__/ \:\ *\ /:/ */ \:\/:/ *\/__/ * * * \::/ /:/ */ * \:\ *\ * * * *\:\ */:/ */ * \::/__/ * * * *\/_/:/ */ * * \:\ *\ * * * *\:\/:/ */ * * \:\ *\ * * * * */:/ */ * * * \:\__\ * * * *\::/ */ * * * \:\__\ What is this ****? -- Bear Bottoms Private Attorney General They don't let them have matches or toothpicks in the Institution so this provides an outlet for the OCD impaired. |
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Maxie begins a new kook-out.were.... Airliner crashes into Hudson River after LGA departure
Bob Officer pinched out a steaming pile
: On Sun, 25 Jan 2009 10:01:20 -0600, in alt.usenet.kooks, §ñühw¤£f wrote: Bob Officer pinched out a steaming pile : [....] It would generally take a person 5-7 years before they could work year round. 10-12 before they could work regular jobs on a temporay basis. and 20 plus to hold any sort of regular job on a year round basis. Railroad reschedual work on a need be basis (within the scope of the union contracts) so their is a big degree of non-control. They are subject tot he demands and needs of the shippers. Floriduh just gave CSX a big huge contract. good bad for the everglades or something, iirc. or it takes from the general fund and the poor need the money more. Deaf as hell but no breathing problems...he didnt know who the **** I was later since he was all alzheimersy & stuff. My dad died from lung cancer (both Small Cell Carcinoma and Metastasized melanoma. Bummer...the smoke was it? Asbestos and/or smoke. Me-so-thee-lee-oh-ma. nods You got it. Well I hope not I hope so too. ugly way to go. Libby Montana knows a thing or two about aSSbest0s... **** WR Grace to hell. Most all locomotive engineers from the diesel era still suffer hearing loss. Most all operating employees for railroads with more than 10 years of service have some hearing loss. About ten years ago the railroads started losing lawsuits over hearing losses and started a hearing conservation program. Too bad it was 27 years too late. YEah...back in the day it was a macho job and you didnt **** & moan about the conditions. The ****ed and moaned even then. I've listen to those guys all my life. no...they laughed at management...but as for crying about the conditions? Yep the ****ed and moaned about that too. Well yer fambly wasn't "stoic" then. all to often the conditions were what you could make them. the trouble is most of the people were content to work in substandard conditions. After the union busting in Bisbee Arizona in 1910 or so...sure...beats getting put on box cars, taken into the desert, and shot by thugs. So much for freedom taken for granted, isn't it. Union busting was a violent and oft forgotten part of american history. Trying to organise could get you killed, back in the day. No real railroader would complain "its too tough". Being gone most of the time? Missing their families? If it wasn't for the "good money", they would have left. My grandpa was lucky then. He worked one line and was home often enough...GNRY. Dad was gone from home about 60% of the nights. The road work had a layover at the away from home point. It was almost like a second home for him. Did he have a second wife? Only after he divorced his 1st wife. Ouch. I ran across a stat for operating crew marriage expectancy. They usually last less than 10 years. We have one guy that's working on his 7th marriage most are on their third... I'm still working on my 1st. The rate was 1:35 marriages last until retirement. 50% of new marriage failing the 1st two years. Possible solution: mormonism. Have a wife at each endpoint. Problem *solved*. I don't know if Flight Crews have the same problems? Thats what the stewardesses ar for. I wouldn't say that out loud, especially if I was going to fly in the foreseeable future. I'm betting theres a watch lits with my name already... Keep a low profile... :-) Sure, I'm totally hiding out on usenet. G00gle "atrios" radio, you might like it The stats might change now that the railroads started hiring and training new employees. Most of the new hires are ex-military and don't stay more than a year or so and most are divorced already. Hopefully they wont be ptsd and have flashbacks. Hopefully... Just increase I have prepared a few signs with arrows. Directing people to the management office's (invoking Garvin's Rule allow management to take the all blame, all the time) HR needs to keep busy. That reminds me of a joke I once was told... Nice cliffhanger. Most new hires are still pumped up and brain washed. They do not make good employees. Brain washed by what? Military. Follow all instructions, without question. Oh that. How many still act like that after they quit service? Some do, it takes ages for them to start to think again. Some never really escape. They wind up living under bridges since the VA dosent give a ****. Today the railroad has cut its pay for new hires to 30%. Wages have effectively dropped since 1985 to about 65% of what they were compared to pre-1985. The employees with seniority (like me) have made up for this by just working trips. I now work 25 days a month compared to the 18-19 days I worked before 1985. The cry was a demand for more productivity. the Grace commission of Ronnie agreed. The funny thing is while productivity went up wages decreased. The number of working employees decreased and got the average age increased. this increased the health care costs and over the next 4 contracts the carriers cried about the increases to health care cost. (the fact the employees health care increases because of increase of work stress also was ignored.) I ****ing hated Reagan. His passing made me smile The only thing was he never felt the pain he caused. The idiot would cut firewood for fun. did he realize his actions created a group of people that were cutting firewood just to feed their families. He lived in a lovely 1950's family show that played in his head. The world to him was just one big Leave It to Beaver episode. or Father Knows Best. I think he felt himself more like Ozzie Nelson. If you watch the way he spoke, it was much of the same phrase tempo. Some of the nicest people are really assholes. ^_^ I've heard that. But then I don't thing they are that nice to start with. How can you tell what an actor's real character is like. Take away his script? Some can act impromptu, ad lib and improvise. Ronny slept a lot. When he was awake it was 1950...all over again. Mainly because alzheimers victims cant rmember anything in the *recent* past so they go back to what they know & rememebr. Father knows best, leave it to beaver, and ozzie and harriet (they were on radio before TV). all considered mainstream "family shows" Dad's worked in office's and mothers keep house. It wasn't ever a depiction of Standard American Life. It was a depicton of an *ideal*, not a 100% reality. Biggest complaints from crews which still use those 1st and 2nd generation locomotives, noise and exhaust fumes in the cab. Ever seen a track weasel? I seen just about everything. including the look on a kids face just after he finally looked up and saw the locomotive, just before it hit him. Ugh. Musta been a deaf kid. Nope, listening to his ipod at full volume. Holy shnikeies!!! I just said "****!" Sad. It was. When the conductor and brakemen went back to look, then found his Ipod laying near the impact sight, still playing at full volume. He was listening to some sort of Rap. ZOMGZ! I *knew* it! "Rap kills". That's a valid assumption. It wasn't the train that killed him, it was the Rap! Ipods are dangerous and should be banned. nods Well, I use an mp3 player to feed my music selections into the Car or Boats music player. I have an 80 gb device. It also works as a spare back-up. stores my Navigation Maps/RIS files. Counseled use. User beware doing *this* could result in *bad* things. Ban in-car video screens in the front seat area. OOPS! There goes the OnStar screen in moms caddy. and those GPS units. Only if they are voice operated or heads-up on the windsheild projection type. Heads up displays like in fighter aircraft should have made it to cars by now....really. Really. Stuff life speedo should have been there already. I think theres a heads up display in a bmw or something... cars for people that think their car shows their status... It should be a standard item. -- http://www.bds-palestine.net/?q=node/9 ___ ___ ___ ___ /\__\ /\ \ /\ \ /\ \ /:/ _/_ \:\ \ \:\ \ \:\ \ /:/ /\ \ \:\ \ \:\ \ \:\ \ /:/ /::\ \ _____\:\ \ ___ \:\ \ ___ /::\ \ /:/_/:/\:\__\ /::::::::\__\ /\ \ \:\__\ /\ /:/\:\__\ \:\/:/ /:/ / \:\~~\~~\/__/ \:\ \ /:/ / \:\/:/ \/__/ \::/ /:/ / \:\ \ \:\ /:/ / \::/__/ \/_/:/ / \:\ \ \:\/:/ / \:\ \ /:/ / \:\__\ \::/ / \:\__\ |
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Maxie begins a new kook-out.were.... Airliner crashes into Hudson River after LGA departure
Bob Officer pinched out a steaming pile
: On Mon, 26 Jan 2009 09:33:52 -0600, in alt.usenet.kooks, §ñühw¤£f wrote: Bob Officer pinched out a steaming pile : On Sun, 25 Jan 2009 10:01:20 -0600, in alt.usenet.kooks, §ñühw¤£f wrote: Bob Officer pinched out a steaming pile : [....] It would generally take a person 5-7 years before they could work year round. 10-12 before they could work regular jobs on a temporay basis. and 20 plus to hold any sort of regular job on a year round basis. Railroad reschedual work on a need be basis (within the scope of the union contracts) so their is a big degree of non-control. They are subject tot he demands and needs of the shippers. Floriduh just gave CSX a big huge contract. good bad for the everglades or something, iirc. or it takes from the general fund and the poor need the money more. Deaf as hell but no breathing problems...he didnt know who the **** I was later since he was all alzheimersy & stuff. My dad died from lung cancer (both Small Cell Carcinoma and Metastasized melanoma. Bummer...the smoke was it? Asbestos and/or smoke. Me-so-thee-lee-oh-ma. nods You got it. Well I hope not I hope so too. ugly way to go. Libby Montana knows a thing or two about aSSbest0s... **** WR Grace to hell. Most all locomotive engineers from the diesel era still suffer hearing loss. Most all operating employees for railroads with more than 10 years of service have some hearing loss. About ten years ago the railroads started losing lawsuits over hearing losses and started a hearing conservation program. Too bad it was 27 years too late. YEah...back in the day it was a macho job and you didnt **** & moan about the conditions. The ****ed and moaned even then. I've listen to those guys all my life. no...they laughed at management...but as for crying about the conditions? Yep the ****ed and moaned about that too. Well yer fambly wasn't "stoic" then. all to often the conditions were what you could make them. the trouble is most of the people were content to work in substandard conditions. After the union busting in Bisbee Arizona in 1910 or so...sure...beats getting put on box cars, taken into the desert, and shot by thugs. So much for freedom taken for granted, isn't it. Union busting was a violent and oft forgotten part of american history. Trying to organise could get you killed, back in the day. No real railroader would complain "its too tough". Being gone most of the time? Missing their families? If it wasn't for the "good money", they would have left. My grandpa was lucky then. He worked one line and was home often enough...GNRY. Dad was gone from home about 60% of the nights. The road work had a layover at the away from home point. It was almost like a second home for him. Did he have a second wife? Only after he divorced his 1st wife. Ouch. I ran across a stat for operating crew marriage expectancy. They usually last less than 10 years. We have one guy that's working on his 7th marriage most are on their third... I'm still working on my 1st. The rate was 1:35 marriages last until retirement. 50% of new marriage failing the 1st two years. Possible solution: mormonism. Have a wife at each endpoint. Problem *solved*. I don't know if Flight Crews have the same problems? Thats what the stewardesses ar for. I wouldn't say that out loud, especially if I was going to fly in the foreseeable future. I'm betting theres a watch lits with my name already... Keep a low profile... :-) Sure, I'm totally hiding out on usenet. G00gle "atrios" radio, you might like it I will, right now we are getting ready to sail back to Kehi. It will only be a few hours sail. but it will take most of the day to pack and clean the boat for long term non-use. Scrape off the zebra mussels... I have to fly back to reality Thursday. What time zone is that in? The stats might change now that the railroads started hiring and training new employees. Most of the new hires are ex-military and don't stay more than a year or so and most are divorced already. Hopefully they wont be ptsd and have flashbacks. Hopefully... Just increase I have prepared a few signs with arrows. Directing people to the management office's (invoking Garvin's Rule allow management to take the all blame, all the time) HR needs to keep busy. That reminds me of a joke I once was told... Nice cliffhanger. IT is... Isn't it. you *******. Most new hires are still pumped up and brain washed. They do not make good employees. Brain washed by what? Military. Follow all instructions, without question. Oh that. How many still act like that after they quit service? Some do, it takes ages for them to start to think again. Some never really escape. They wind up living under bridges since the VA dosent give a ****. Or just commit suicide by cop. PTSD takes so many of them. And alcohol/drug abuse the rest. After WW2, one of my dad's best friends ended up being killed during one of those flashbacks. Another became so bad an alky, he couldn't function. At his funerals, I got to read some of the commendations he got and the events for which he earned his medals. There were nine other people at his funeral... sad. He died at home alone and drunk. He drank himself to death. The cost of war... Today the railroad has cut its pay for new hires to 30%. Wages have effectively dropped since 1985 to about 65% of what they were compared to pre- 1985. The employees with seniority (like me) have made up for this by just working trips. I now work 25 days a month compared to the 18-19 days I worked before 1985. The cry was a demand for more productivity. the Grace commission of Ronnie agreed. The funny thing is while productivity went up wages decreased. The number of working employees decreased and got the average age increased. this increased the health care costs and over the next 4 contracts the carriers cried about the increases to health care cost. (the fact the employees health care increases because of increase of work stress also was ignored.) I ****ing hated Reagan. His passing made me smile The only thing was he never felt the pain he caused. The idiot would cut firewood for fun. did he realize his actions created a group of people that were cutting firewood just to feed their families. He lived in a lovely 1950's family show that played in his head. The world to him was just one big Leave It to Beaver episode. or Father Knows Best. I think he felt himself more like Ozzie Nelson. If you watch the way he spoke, it was much of the same phrase tempo. Some of the nicest people are really assholes. ^_^ I've heard that. But then I don't thing they are that nice to start with. How can you tell what an actor's real character is like. Take away his script? Some can act impromptu, ad lib and improvise. Ronny slept a lot. When he was awake it was 1950...all over again. Mainly because alzheimers victims cant rmember anything in the *recent* past so they go back to what they know & rememebr. Father knows best, leave it to beaver, and ozzie and harriet (they were on radio before TV). all considered mainstream "family shows" Dad's worked in office's and mothers keep house. It wasn't ever a depiction of Standard American Life. It was a depicton of an *ideal*, not a 100% reality. What part of it was ideal? Dad's that went tired after a day of work? Mothers that cooked every meal and wore dresses, pearls and high heals to clean the house? Home ownership, the company man, a chicken in every pot and a *dodge* in the garage...compared to single parent families where theres a good chance the food stamps are necessary, I'd say the recovery period post WW2 was pretty prosperous...for more americans than now. Biggest complaints from crews which still use those 1st and 2nd generation locomotives, noise and exhaust fumes in the cab. Ever seen a track weasel? I seen just about everything. including the look on a kids face just after he finally looked up and saw the locomotive, just before it hit him. Ugh. Musta been a deaf kid. Nope, listening to his ipod at full volume. Holy shnikeies!!! I just said "****!" Sad. It was. When the conductor and brakemen went back to look, then found his Ipod laying near the impact sight, still playing at full volume. He was listening to some sort of Rap. ZOMGZ! I *knew* it! "Rap kills". That's a valid assumption. It wasn't the train that killed him, it was the Rap! Ipods are dangerous and should be banned. nods Well, I use an mp3 player to feed my music selections into the Car or Boats music player. I have an 80 gb device. It also works as a spare back-up. stores my Navigation Maps/RIS files. Counseled use. User beware doing *this* could result in *bad* things. Ban in-car video screens in the front seat area. OOPS! There goes the OnStar screen in moms caddy. and those GPS units. Only if they are voice operated or heads-up on the windsheild projection type. Heads up displays like in fighter aircraft should have made it to cars by now....really. Really. Stuff life speedo should have been there already. I think theres a heads up display in a bmw or something... cars for people that think their car shows their status... It should be a standard item. The standard should have been something developed years ago. in the 60's the Barrett Burried Guidance System was developed as a concept. The implementation has been doable for years. Not to implement it now, is just silly. This could control traffic, and actually stop people from exceeding the safe speed for any corridor. Volvo has a new crash avoidance system that looks pretty impressive... -- http://www.bds-palestine.net/?q=node/9 ___ ___ ___ ___ /\__\ /\ \ /\ \ /\ \ /:/ _/_ \:\ \ \:\ \ \:\ \ /:/ /\ \ \:\ \ \:\ \ \:\ \ /:/ /::\ \ _____\:\ \ ___ \:\ \ ___ /::\ \ /:/_/:/\:\__\ /::::::::\__\ /\ \ \:\__\ /\ /:/\:\__\ \:\/:/ /:/ / \:\~~\~~\/__/ \:\ \ /:/ / \:\/:/ \/__/ \::/ /:/ / \:\ \ \:\ /:/ / \::/__/ \/_/:/ / \:\ \ \:\/:/ / \:\ \ /:/ / \:\__\ \::/ / \:\__\ |
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