Calling from a cell phone when airborne

Just thought I would pass this experience along to the group:

I had been able to accomplish this a couple of times by throttling back to
about 2000 RPM and slipping off my headphones. This weekend I discovered
that the reception and transmission is quite good if you use a hands free
headset with a dangling microphone. With the ear bud in your ear and the
microphone inside the ear cup, the sidetone drives the phone's mike just
fine.

--
Regards,
Mike

http://mywebpage.netscape.com/amountainaero/fspic1.html

Thanks for the note. I spent about $100 for a dingus that connects the
cell to an intercom, it sounds like this works just as well for about
$75 less!

(Legal wrangling aside, of course... I'm sure you only call using 1.9GHz
frequencies anyway)


Mike Noel wrote:
Just thought I would pass this experience along to the group:

I had been able to accomplish this a couple of times by throttling back to
about 2000 RPM and slipping off my headphones. This weekend I discovered
that the reception and transmission is quite good if you use a hands free
headset with a dangling microphone. With the ear bud in your ear and the
microphone inside the ear cup, the sidetone drives the phone's mike just
fine.

The LightSpeed 30-3G has a built-in jack to plug the cellphone
interconnect cord into.

Edr,

The LightSpeed 30-3G has a built-in jack to plug the cellphone
interconnect cord into.


In fact, all new Lightspeed models have that now.


Thomas Borchert (EDDH)

I bought that 100 dollar dingus a year ago and it works great.. it also
doesnt involve having to remove your headset to USE the HF cell
speaker/mike. Using that 100 dollar dingus also allows me to use the ANR
feature of my headset to overcome airplane noise.. I also can use that
dingus to (so ive been told) record intercom traffic on tape/dvr/videocam.

And.. to address legalities.. I've been told the letter of the law
applies to airborne use of ANALOG cellular phones? Does anyone know
specific chapter and verse of the FCC regs that spell this out, and does
it INCLUDE or EXCLUDE digital/later generation phones such as PCS which
do not confuse/saturate the cell towers when they are used up at altitude

Dave

Elwood Dowd wrote:
Thanks for the note. I spent about $100 for a dingus that connects the
cell to an intercom, it sounds like this works just as well for about
$75 less!

(Legal wrangling aside, of course... I'm sure you only call using 1.9GHz
frequencies anyway)


Mike Noel wrote:

Just thought I would pass this experience along to the group:

I had been able to accomplish this a couple of times by throttling
back to
about 2000 RPM and slipping off my headphones. This weekend I discovered
that the reception and transmission is quite good if you use a hands free
headset with a dangling microphone. With the ear bud in your ear and the
microphone inside the ear cup, the sidetone drives the phone's mike just
fine.

The FCC regs apply to "Cellular Telephones". The description of cellphones
in the licensing rules don't include the frequency bands or the modes of
operation that digital phones use. So, technically, digital phones are not
"cellphones", though marketing types call them cell phones to keep the
average consumer from getting confused.

Steve

"Dave S" wrote in message
nk.net...
I bought that 100 dollar dingus a year ago and it works great.. it also
doesnt involve having to remove your headset to USE the HF cell
speaker/mike. Using that 100 dollar dingus also allows me to use the ANR
feature of my headset to overcome airplane noise.. I also can use that
dingus to (so ive been told) record intercom traffic on tape/dvr/videocam.

And.. to address legalities.. I've been told the letter of the law
applies to airborne use of ANALOG cellular phones? Does anyone know
specific chapter and verse of the FCC regs that spell this out, and does
it INCLUDE or EXCLUDE digital/later generation phones such as PCS which
do not confuse/saturate the cell towers when they are used up at altitude

"Steve" wrote in message
. com...

The FCC regs apply to "Cellular Telephones". The description of
cellphones
in the licensing rules don't include the frequency bands or the modes of
operation that digital phones use. So, technically, digital phones are
not
"cellphones", though marketing types call them cell phones to keep the
average consumer from getting confused.

If you want to get technical, first generation aka 1G (analog), 2G
(digital), and 3G (also digital w/ higher capacity and data rates) phones
are communicate with the base station which covers a small area called a
cell. So technically they are all cellular phones. Also, most 2G phones use
the 1G frequencies. Many 2G phones will handoff to a 1G base station if
there is not a decent signal from a 2G base station. Also, many 1G
operators are reusing their 1G frequencies to provide 2G services on those
frequencies. Some companies like sprint and t-mobile dont have any 1G
frequencies, but even if you have a phone that supports the 1G frequencies,
it will roam onto those 1G frequencies if you go out of their coverage
areas. The only way you can guarantee that you will be on 2G frequencies is
to buy a phone from someone like sprint or t-mobile which only supports
1900MHz or a phone which allows you to disable the 850MHz range though I
have not seen any phones that do that. They normally just allow you to
disable the European frequencies (900/1800) if they are supported.

And just because you are not in a call does not mean you are safe. A cell
phone that is not in use is periodically communicating with the surrounding
base stations whenever it is on. So the only way to ensure you are not
transmitting is to turn it off.

"picopirate" writes:

If you want to get technical, first generation aka 1G (analog), 2G
(digital), and 3G (also digital w/ higher capacity and data rates) phones
are communicate with the base station which covers a small area called a
cell. So technically they are all cellular phones.

Don't let Patterson hear you say that.
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm...0earthlink.net

--kyler

And just because you are not in a call does not mean you are safe. A cell
phone that is not in use is periodically communicating with the
surrounding
base stations whenever it is on. So the only way to ensure you are not
transmitting is to turn it off.



This is why when you are doing explosive work, all phones need to be shut
off. because even if they are just sitting they will still transmit

What is the Dingus? I've heard of Cellset to connect your cell phone to
your headset, but not Dingus.

Pete

"Dave S" wrote in message
nk.net...
I bought that 100 dollar dingus a year ago and it works great.. it also
doesnt involve having to remove your headset to USE the HF cell
speaker/mike. Using that 100 dollar dingus also allows me to use the ANR
feature of my headset to overcome airplane noise.. I also can use that
dingus to (so ive been told) record intercom traffic on tape/dvr/videocam.

And.. to address legalities.. I've been told the letter of the law
applies to airborne use of ANALOG cellular phones? Does anyone know
specific chapter and verse of the FCC regs that spell this out, and does
it INCLUDE or EXCLUDE digital/later generation phones such as PCS which
do not confuse/saturate the cell towers when they are used up at altitude

Dave

Elwood Dowd wrote:
Thanks for the note. I spent about $100 for a dingus that connects the
cell to an intercom, it sounds like this works just as well for about
$75 less!

(Legal wrangling aside, of course... I'm sure you only call using 1.9GHz
frequencies anyway)


Mike Noel wrote:

Just thought I would pass this experience along to the group:

I had been able to accomplish this a couple of times by throttling
back to
about 2000 RPM and slipping off my headphones. This weekend I
discovered
that the reception and transmission is quite good if you use a hands
free
headset with a dangling microphone. With the ear bud in your ear and
the
microphone inside the ear cup, the sidetone drives the phone's mike
just
fine.