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Private airport insurance?
Anyone know home much it would cost to insure a private airport? I know
some people with private fields on the sectional "No landings without prior permission of owner" and they will tell you that it's open to all their friends, but they don't have any insurance. I'm thinking that they are really leaving themselves open to lawsuits if someone gets hurt due to a rough landing (or worse). I also notice that more than a few private fields are for sale, and I'm wondering if this is one of the reasons why. |
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"Ken Finney" wrote in message ... Anyone know home much it would cost to insure a private airport? I know some people with private fields on the sectional "No landings without prior permission of owner" and they will tell you that it's open to all their friends, but they don't have any insurance. I'm thinking that they are really leaving themselves open to lawsuits if someone gets hurt due to a rough landing (or worse). I also notice that more than a few private fields are for sale, and I'm wondering if this is one of the reasons why. What is sad is that having a private field SHOULDN'T leave you open to any liability (short of advertising an airfield and digging a ditch down the middle to intentionally cause accidents). Short of something that nuts, why would you as a property owner be liable if I can't control my airplane? Lawyers suck. |
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Jeff wrote: What is sad is that having a private field SHOULDN'T leave you open to any liability (short of advertising an airfield and digging a ditch down the middle to intentionally cause accidents). Short of something that nuts, why would you as a property owner be liable if I can't control my airplane? Lawyers suck. Here in Montana the legislature this year ammended an existing law that now says an owner of a private airport cannot be sued if a pilot crashes on this private airport. As long as it is a non commercial aircraft operation the airport owner is untouchable. Now the airport owner no longer has to have you sign a release in advance to protect himself. |
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"Newps" wrote in message ... Jeff wrote: What is sad is that having a private field SHOULDN'T leave you open to any liability (short of advertising an airfield and digging a ditch down the middle to intentionally cause accidents). Short of something that nuts, why would you as a property owner be liable if I can't control my airplane? Lawyers suck. Here in Montana the legislature this year ammended an existing law that now says an owner of a private airport cannot be sued if a pilot crashes on this private airport. As long as it is a non commercial aircraft operation the airport owner is untouchable. Now the airport owner no longer has to have you sign a release in advance to protect himself. Thanks, I was wondering if some State had done something like this. I'll have to search the net and see if Washington State has done something similar. On a similar note: Washington State did pass a law several years ago that says that horse-riding is an inherently dangerous activity, and the horse owner can't be held liable if someone falls off the person's horse (or words to that effect). I know this because a friend of mine had a horse for sale, a woman came out to "test drive" it, fell off, was seriously hurt and sued him (just after the law took effect). It turns out the woman had made a career off of doing this, and didn't know about the new law. However, this time (unlike the previous times) she was seriously hurt (partial paralysis, IIRC) and couldn't collect. My friend's insurance company did pay her $10K just to go away, but she suffered BIG TIME. There is a God! ;^) |
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Ken Finney wrote:
On a similar note: Washington State did pass a law several years ago that says that horse-riding is an inherently dangerous activity, and the horse owner can't be held liable if someone falls off the person's horse (or words to that effect). CT has a GREAT landowner liability law that protects landowners from many lawsuits from hikers, mountain bikers, trail riding equestrians, fisherman, or any other potentially dangerous activity that the landowner allows by strangers. It is limited to non-motorized activities, and the protection dissappears if the landowner charges a fee for access. You'd think something similar would be useful to privately owned airports. |
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On Tue, 28 Aug 2007 16:42:31 GMT, B A R R Y
wrote: CT has a GREAT landowner liability law that protects landowners from many lawsuits from hikers, mountain bikers, trail riding equestrians, fisherman, or any other potentially dangerous activity that the landowner allows by strangers. It is limited to non-motorized activities, and the protection dissappears if the landowner charges a fee for access. You'd think something similar would be useful to privately owned airports. Every state in the U.S. has a similar law, though details vary. Generally called "recreational liability statutes", they protect a landowner who makes his land available (without charge) for recreational purposes. Barry, the CT law is NOT limited to non motorized activities. No reason why it wouldn't apply to a private airport, as long as the owner isn't charging a landing fee or hangar rent. For a comprehensive list of these statutes for all states: http://www.americanwhitewater.org/archive/article/123/ -Dana -- -- If replying by email, please make the obvious changes. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- But do you trust the _government_ with semi-automatic assault rifles? |
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"Newps" wrote in message ... Jeff wrote: What is sad is that having a private field SHOULDN'T leave you open to any liability (short of advertising an airfield and digging a ditch down the middle to intentionally cause accidents). Short of something that nuts, why would you as a property owner be liable if I can't control my airplane? Lawyers suck. Here in Montana the legislature this year ammended an existing law that now says an owner of a private airport cannot be sued if a pilot crashes on this private airport. As long as it is a non commercial aircraft operation the airport owner is untouchable. Now the airport owner no longer has to have you sign a release in advance to protect himself. I tried Yahoo and Google and couldn't find the law you mention. Any change you know the name or number of it? |
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Ken Finney wrote: Here in Montana the legislature this year ammended an existing law that now says an owner of a private airport cannot be sued if a pilot crashes on this private airport. As long as it is a non commercial aircraft operation the airport owner is untouchable. Now the airport owner no longer has to have you sign a release in advance to protect himself. I tried Yahoo and Google and couldn't find the law you mention. Any change you know the name or number of it? Yes, it was Senate Bill 318. Here's a blurb from the Montana Pilots Assoc website. The Governor signed the bill inot law on April 30th. The MPA Recreational Airstrip Committee and the Recreational Aviation Foundation are working to amend Montana's recreational use statute to include private airstrips A year ago the Recreational Aviation Foundation (RAF) received a grant from the Alfred Wolfe Foundation to hire a UM law student to research the various states' recreational use statutes to see if aviation was included. Only Idaho included aviation in their recreational use statute. The law student, under the guidance of his professor, studied the efficacy of Montana's recreational use statute and then drafted an amendment to the Montana law. The amendment defines “airstrip” as either improved or unimproved landing areas used by pilots and excludes municipal airports. The purpose of recreational use statutes is to limit landowner liability when they allow their lands to be used for public recreation without compensation. Montana’s current recreational statute lists activities such as fishing, hunting, hiking, biking, winter sports, camping and many others, but aviation is not mentioned. Incorporating aviation into the statute could result in more recreational use airstrips and encourage landowners to maintain their airstrips, thus providing more landing sites for emergency or precautionary landings. Following the drafting of the proposed legislation, the RAF took the document to the Montana Pilots’ Association (MPA). The MPA is now in the process of moving this legislation through the legislative process in the 2007 session in Helena. The bill (SB 318) has been introduced into the Senate by Senator Jim Peterson of Buffalo, Mont. (Senate District 15). When this bill comes up for committee hearings it is imperative that as many pilots as possible attend to show the House Judiciary Committee how important this legislation is to the aviation community. You do not need to testify, however oral or written testimony is very important. Any landowner with an airstrip should be involved in passing this legislation; they have everything to gain and nothing to lose. There is usually a week's notice given for hearings which allows schedule planning. If your schedule prevents you from attending the hearing then please write or call both your legislators, personal contact on this bill is very important. If you do not know who your legislators are, you can find your districts on your voter registration card and then go to: www.leg.mt.gov. If you are not able to attend the hearing, a letter should be sent to your legislators or as a last choice, a phone message can be left for your legislators by calling the legislative message center at 406-444-4800. A good example of a letter to a legislator is the one sent by Chuck Jarecki to Representative Janna Taylor, use this as a guide but use your own words. The MPA is maintaining a list of MPA members and RAF supporters who would like to be notified of the hearing schedule. Please send your name, e-mail address and phone number to MPA/RAF director Chuck Jarecki at: . If you have questions or need additional information Jarecki is the one to contact. |
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"Newps" wrote in message ... Ken Finney wrote: Here in Montana the legislature this year ammended an existing law that now says an owner of a private airport cannot be sued if a pilot crashes on this private airport. As long as it is a non commercial aircraft operation the airport owner is untouchable. Now the airport owner no longer has to have you sign a release in advance to protect himself. I tried Yahoo and Google and couldn't find the law you mention. Any change you know the name or number of it? Yes, it was Senate Bill 318. Here's a blurb from the Montana Pilots Assoc website. The Governor signed the bill inot law on April 30th. snip Thanks. I've going to bring this issue up to the Washington Pilots Association. |
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