Rocks Thrown at Border Patrol Chopper

Matt Barrow wrote:

There's plenty of laborers; they get migrant worker (temporary)permits (??)
easily.

Not this year. Apparently, someone at immigration decided these guys were easy
targets and did a big roundup. You are correct that they have permits and were
actually legal, but that didn't change anything. By the time the workers made it
back across the border and into the fields, a big chunk of this year's harvest
was lost.

NPR was interviewing a California peach grower yesterday about the situation (I
think it was on "All Things Considered"). His crop has a relatively short
harvest season, and the roundup didn't hit him too badly, but he still had tons
of fruit rot in the fields.

George Patterson
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George Patterson wrote:

You are correct that they have permits and were
actually legal, but that didn't change anything.

Am I following this correctly? Homeland security, having failed to handle
the problem of illegal immigration, deported *legal* immigrants?

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probably living in some suburban US town watching CNN. The largest threat
to his health is that he'll kill himself laughing at our "war against
terrorism".

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.... By the time the workers made it back across the
border and into the fields, a big chunk of this year's harvest
was lost.

NPR was interviewing a California peach grower ....
...he still had tons of fruit rot in the fields.

My heart bleeds....

Please, what's really going on here is that the employer (farmer, grower,
whatever) was too cheap to hire more labor to come in and finish the job. I
believe many employers do this intentionally to protest the cut-off of their
cheap labor supply.

The implication is that the American economy will somehow shut down if we
don't allow illegal immigration, when all that's really needed is for
employers to be more responsible.

Frankie

Listen to the Latino community leaders. You are dead wrong. Every time
talk of closing the border is mentioned they get on the racist band wagon.

Exactly.

Many Latino leaders feign offense and claim racists are trying to keep out
Latinos. This is standard practice, and is very effective. It scares people
away from the issue.

But look what's happened:

If trying to keep out illegal immigrants equates to racism, and Latino
leaders claim offense, they have unwittingly associated all Latinos with
illegal immigrants (criminals). Thus they've just insulted the whole Latino
community by insinuating all Latinos came here illegally; that the whole lot
of them has no interest in coming to America legally!

It's twisted logic.

Frankie

"W P Dixon" wrote in message
I know where you are coming from Jay, my 1st wife was of hispanic
descent, father Nuevo Laredo, mexico and Mom from Bogota Columbia....and
they did not like the wide open borders either. Though my father in law
had a very good paying job he said the illegals kept the pay down for
Mexicans that were here legally.

Aluckyguess wrote:
I never thought about that but he was right.
I think the reason they let them in is they are funding our social security
system with phony ID's. They pay in but will never collect.

And there are people who are working to allow them to collect that money.

Aluckyguess wrote:
Sure they do they get a phony ID and then find a job and the employer takes
out the taxes and SSI . The employer doesnt even know they are ilegal.
If the employer finds out he has to fire the employee or he can be fined.

$10,000/person/day

Aluckyguess wrote:
Farmers were upset in Arizona. They did a crack down and there were not
enough laborers to pick the fields. I heard they eased up a bit to help them
out.

Ohio has a problem now.
Not enough migrants came to Ohio this summer to pick cucumbers. Over 25%
of this years crop is rotting in the fields.

Jay Honeck wrote:
In a perfect world, they would send the gendarmes over to arrest the
illegal -- I would be happy to cooperate -- but they have ZERO interest in
doing this. And apparently ZERO contact with any law enforcement agency.

Social Security is not Customs and Border Protection nor Immigration.
There are walls put up between the "hands"... deliberately!

Frankie wrote:

The implication is that the American economy will somehow shut down if we
don't allow illegal immigration, when all that's really needed is for
employers to be more responsible.

You must have missed the point that these workers are *not* illegal, nor or they
immigrants. They are temporary workers who have permits to allow them to come in
for the season.

George Patterson
Give a person a fish and you feed him for a day; teach a person to
use the Internet and he won't bother you for weeks.