Rocks Thrown at Border Patrol Chopper

"Jay Honeck" wrote in message
oups.com...

When a employee is hired they must complete an I-9 to prove they are
legal
to work in the US. This form had the Dept of Justice written at the top
until very recently. Now it has Dept. of Homeland Security on it. All
the
DOH would have to do to enforce the immigration laws is require
employers to
report anyone who can't produce the ID required for the form.

The civil libertarians would have a bird.

Imagine, employers actually being required to report applicants that
are in the country illegally? Or, better yet, requiring prison time
for those employers who knowingly hire them? Dang, I'll bet we'd have
the problem solved in a matter of weeks.

As an employer, however, I can understand how some would find the
mandatory nature of this law to be an onerous burden -- but what I
don't understand is why (in the short term) we can't make reporting
voluntary?

At the moment, when I discover that an applicant is illegal, I have no
where to turn with that information. Who do I call? The State Patrol?
The police? Ghost Busters? No one seems to care.

It's a stupid, screwed-up system that could be fixed by changing less
than five relatively minor things. Why can't we get this right?

Some large liberal municipalities have laws against local law enforcement
providing information about illegal aliens to the Feds.

--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"

There is something ironic about US citizens whose families have lived
here for less than 400 years complaining about illegal immigrants...
Anyway, the very real reason why no politician is willing to touch this
issue is because the US economy has become dependent on cheap illegal
labor. So to adjust ash's proposal:

2a) Huge price increases in all domestic products due to regular wages
being paid
2b) Consumers pick cheaper imported merchandise
2c) US companies fold or go overseas
Thus
3) No need for guest worker program

- Marco

"Michelle P" wrote in message
ink.net...
Perhaps we should arm the border patrol with rocks so they can return
"fire".
I was a the the Boeing Museum of flight a couple of weeks ago and saw the
first air to air weapons. Bricks cut in half. I think we should return to
these. True skill is required to hit your opponent.
Michelle

Salt rock, that will teach them.
wrote:

Rocks Thrown at Border Patrol Chopper
Aug 25 3:31 PM US/Eastern

AHHHH,
Take the ****ters out of commercial airliners for awhile and you won't
feel so bad.

Patrick
student SPL
aircraft structural mech

"The OTHER Kevin in San Diego" skiddz "AT" adelphia "DOT" net wrote in
message ...
On Fri, 26 Aug 2005 19:43:41 GMT, "Mortimer Schnerd, RN"
wrote:

The OTHER Kevin in San Diego" skiddz "AT" adelphia "DOT wrote:
So I should ****-can my plans to fly for a living and go mow lawns at
$60/hr?? Sounds like of my co-worker's wife who gets something like
$150/hr to [get this!] braid horse manes and tails..


Of course he makes more money; look at the ****ty conditions in which he
works.

Cute. I just closed doors on my biz of nearly 8 years becasue I was
tired of schleping through people's toenail clippings and wading knee
deep in fetid water getting buildings linked up with fiber optic
cable... THAT is a ****ty environment and I never made anywhere close
to $150/hour.

Michael wrote:

the first batch you sold
would have bugs that would need to be worked out

So much for the cat or kid, eh?

Laugh

- Andrew

Ash Wyllie wrote:

3) A guest worker program.

They already have the guest worker program.

George Patterson
Give a person a fish and you feed him for a day; teach a person to
use the Internet and he won't bother you for weeks.

Ohio has a problem now.
Not enough migrants came to Ohio this summer to pick cucumbers. Over 25%
of this years crop is rotting in the fields.

And now they're in a real pickle...

(Sorry!)

:-)
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"

Some large liberal municipalities have laws against local law enforcement
providing information about illegal aliens to the Feds.

What? Where?
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"

Also, if you are calling on just the Hispanic applicants you are
discriminating.

We call the SS administration hot line on any applicant who is obviously
(and, admittedly, right on the application form) not born in the United
States.
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"

There is something ironic about US citizens whose families have lived
here for less than 400 years complaining about illegal immigrants...

Yes, there is. But never before have new immigrants so arrogantly
*expected* everything to be handed to them on a silver platter.

When my ancestors arrived in America, in 1852, they spoke only German. They
attended German language schools during the day, took English classes at
night, and lived in ghettos where they could speak their native tongue
comfortably -- not unlike the barrios of today.

But the difference was, NO ONE expected the American taxpayers to foot the
bill for their bi-lingual education. No one expected signage to be written
in both languages, at the inconvenience and expense of the natives. And
they certainly would never have dreamed of all the bi-lingual crap we must
deal with every day, from ATMs to voice mail systems.

Everyone understood that English was the coin of the realm They either
learned English within six months of landing at Ellis Island -- or they
failed. It was that simple.

AND they arrived legally, by the way. While this is apparently not a
difference that is appreciated by many today, in my book it's a HUGE
difference..

Every time I run a charge card through the machine at Target (or Wal-Mart),
and it wastes my time asking which language I want to read, I vocally
complain to the store employees. This is AMERICA, and the language here is
ENGLISH -- and I shouldn't have to TELL THEM THAT. The incompetent moron
who invented those infernal bilingual charge/ATM machines should be made to
spend all of eternity trying to figure out which button to push on the
menu...

Let me describe this issue in cold economic facts, rather than the emotion
of English versus Spanish: For every million shoppers who must spend an
average of 3 seconds (probably far longer) trying to figure out which button
to push (Spanish or English), that is 34.7 DAYS spent wasting everyone's
time in line, making a stupid, unnecessary choice.

(1,000,000 x 3 seconds = 3,000,000 seconds divided by 60 = 50,000 minutes
divided by 60 = 833.33 hours divided by 24 = 34.7 days)

Now, multiply that times 150,000,000 or so shoppers, and you can see we're
talking a HUGE economic impact -- and that's just one little question on one
little screen that we all must use.

It's insane, but it's the law -- and there's apparently nothing we can do to
change it.
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"