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Average lifespan of a business jet?
There's a rumor floating around the office that my company is
considering purchase of a used bizjet. They have a reputation for trying to do things on the cheap and seem to be partial to Citations because we're located in a town that has a Cessna repair facility. I've seen multiple listings for such planes varying from 15-20 years and older with TT ranging from as few as 3700 up to 10000-12000. So I wonder...how old (how many hours) does such a plane get before it has (generally speaking) outlived it's usefulness? Depending on what they decide to buy, I'll have to determine whether or not I want to fly in it. GrtArtistea non-pilot, not wanting to end up like Payne Stewart |
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Average lifespan of a business jet?
GrtArtiste wrote:
There's a rumor floating around the office that my company is considering purchase of a used bizjet. They have a reputation for trying to do things on the cheap and seem to be partial to Citations because we're located in a town that has a Cessna repair facility. I've seen multiple listings for such planes varying from 15-20 years and older with TT ranging from as few as 3700 up to 10000-12000. So I wonder...how old (how many hours) does such a plane get before it has (generally speaking) outlived it's usefulness? Depending on what they decide to buy, I'll have to determine whether or not I want to fly in it. GrtArtistea non-pilot, not wanting to end up like Payne Stewart Mostly depends on how well it was maintained. Michelle |
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Average lifespan of a business jet?
On Feb 13, 8:37 pm, Michelle P
wrote: Mostly depends on how well it was maintained. Michelle Of course it does. Let's assume all required maintenance was above- average in quality. I guess what I'm looking for is an age-hour limit for my comfort level. GrtArtiste |
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Average lifespan of a business jet?
The number of pressurizations is one factor. Something like 10,000
(that would be 10,000 pressurizations, not hours) is getting up there. The other item is engine rebuilds are horrendously expensive and can swamp the cost of purchase. Don't believe Cessna's figures on per hour running either. They are way optimistic. Having said all that, there are some very useful, well used business jets out there. My advice would be to get an expert. in CESSNA CITATIONS. Probably a Citation mechanic, and pay him to help you decide which one. |
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Average lifespan of a business jet?
"Doug" wrote in message ps.com... The number of pressurizations is one factor. Something like 10,000 (that would be 10,000 pressurizations, not hours) is getting up there. snip I have recently flown a 737 with over 74000 cycles. |
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("Private" wrote)
The number of pressurizations is one factor. Something like 10,000 (that would be 10,000 pressurizations, not hours) is getting up there. I have recently flown a 737 with over 74000 cycles. Is taking off, flying up to altitude, then landing, one cycle? 10 Cycles Per Day (x) ... 10 years (3,650 days) = 36,500 cycles 20 years (x) ..10 c.p.d. = 73,000 cycles 25 years (x) ...8 c.p.d. = 73,000 cycles 40 years (x) ...5 c.p.d. = 73,000 cycles WOW! Montblack |
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Average lifespan of a business jet?
GrtArtiste wrote:
There's a rumor floating around the office that my company is considering purchase of a used bizjet. They have a reputation for trying to do things on the cheap and seem to be partial to Citations because we're located in a town that has a Cessna repair facility. I've seen multiple listings for such planes varying from 15-20 years and older with TT ranging from as few as 3700 up to 10000-12000. So I wonder...how old (how many hours) does such a plane get before it has (generally speaking) outlived it's usefulness? Depending on what they decide to buy, I'll have to determine whether or not I want to fly in it. GrtArtistea non-pilot, not wanting to end up like Payne Stewart Not sure this is a go/no-go question. As the age goes up, the liklihood of systems failing does also. If the plane has a history of being patched up (overhauls and repairs on the original systems), that is probably going to cost you. If the jet has seen major upgrades to newer systems when something fails (new avionics, engine upgrades, airframe overhauls), you may find a sweet spot in the financials of owning that plane. In general, most business jets have surprisingly little time on them. But it does not take many $30,000 heated windshields to bust the bank. I really never equated "cheap" with "jets". Maybe someone with a lot more cash than I do would. Good Luck, Mike |
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Average lifespan of a business jet?
Maybe try not to be the first passenger then?
I would also/moreso worry about pilot training/qualifications. Egos and fancy outfits do not help when something does go wrong. GrtArtiste wrote: There's a rumor floating around the office that my company is considering purchase of a used bizjet. They have a reputation for trying to do things on the cheap and seem to be partial to Citations because we're located in a town that has a Cessna repair facility. I've seen multiple listings for such planes varying from 15-20 years and older with TT ranging from as few as 3700 up to 10000-12000. So I wonder...how old (how many hours) does such a plane get before it has (generally speaking) outlived it's usefulness? Depending on what they decide to buy, I'll have to determine whether or not I want to fly in it. GrtArtistea non-pilot, not wanting to end up like Payne Stewart |
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Average lifespan of a business jet?
One other major item that you need to do with whatever you decide to
purchase is to take the time run down the list of recommended and required inspection or overhaul items due within the next couple of thousand hours and get a handle on the costs of them. You don't want to drop a bunch on an jet that turns up needing a required inspection or overhaul that rivals the purchase price. I had an aquaitenence that bought a jet for a fantastic price, but ended up grounding it 300 hours later when a mandatory inspection came due....the labor cost exceeded what he paid for the jet. He though it was a very simple inspection, but it wasn't and it really bit him in the butt when got the estimate. |
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