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Badwater Bill's Memorial Service
Dan Camper wrote: On Tue, 24 Mar 2009 16:19:07 -0500, cavelamb wrote: Dan Camper wrote: On Mon, 23 Mar 2009 19:05:45 -0700, John Ammeter wrote: Anyone that would like to join us in toasting Badwater Bill, the biggest Asshole that ever walked the Earth and flew through the skies... l May I? Question: Why is it when someone croaks there is always a "if you were his friend" story? My bet is if it rains, no one will show for the asshole's funeral. I guess you didn't know him... An asshole is an asshole. And I certainly recognize one right here... Bill "acted" like an asshole as his persona... you, obviously, are an asshole... Your Mother didn't much of a job raising you... too bad.... |
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Stealth Pilot wrote:
canopies that hinge backwards will just be blown away but may take the pilots head off as they depart the aircraft. Wouldn't the hinge also have to fail for the canopy to strike the occupants of the cockpit? Otherwise I'm not sure how the geometry of the situation would cause any part of the canopy to enter the cockpit to strike anyone in it. (I could see how such a canopy's hinge would fail eventually and causing rudder damage.) |
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Jim Logajan wrote:
Stealth Pilot wrote: canopies that hinge backwards will just be blown away but may take the pilots head off as they depart the aircraft. Wouldn't the hinge also have to fail for the canopy to strike the occupants of the cockpit? Otherwise I'm not sure how the geometry of the situation would cause any part of the canopy to enter the cockpit to strike anyone in it. (I could see how such a canopy's hinge would fail eventually and causing rudder damage.) or undies wrapped around his head? It had to be something pretty distracting. |
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"Stealth Pilot" wrote from my perspective who cares what the NTSB attributes the crash to. Bill wont care. It wont bring him back. It wont stop people making poor design choices in homebuilts. as I say be gentle on Janice. she is grieving the loss. All great truisms. All humans are curious. They just want to know. Like you say, it won't bring Bill back. I agree about not pushing Janice. She has been through a lot, and has a lot to work through in the future. Even though she does not remember anything from the crash, months or years down the road, she may start to remember glimpses of the crash. On the other hand, she may not. For now, those close to her just have to take care of her the best way they know how. You all lift one for me. I'll lift one from afar. -- Jim in NC |
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Stealth Pilot wrote:
some homebuilts have less than optimal design features but that is part of the character of them. every single homebuilt is different and lessons from one are seldom transferrable to another. from my perspective who cares what the NTSB attributes the crash to. Bill wont care. It wont bring him back. It wont stop people making poor design choices in homebuilts. I respect your attitude, but I do not share it. For one thing, the Lancair Legacy is not a "one-of." There are over 100 of them in the US registry alone. Bill had a "hired gun" build the Lancair; the man built at least three of them (in addition to at least one other type). So I think it's important that the current Legacy owners know whether there's a design flaw in the canopy latch. I think it's important for owners of the hired gun's other aircraft to know whether their builder had trouble getting the latch to work right. Almost fourteen years ago, Steve Wittman and his wife were killed in the crash of his O&O special. The accident resulted from his use of a mix of covering processes (Poly-fiber fabric attached with nitrate dope). Just *two weeks* ago, that accident was referenced in a Fly Baby mailing list discussion of covering and painting processes. About ten years ago, a very respected local homebuilder was killed. He died because he didn't tighten a nut. Every time I take a wrench to my airplane, I think of him and how even the best can make mistakes. So the lessons *do* get learned...but we need to do the research that reveals the truths. If we learn nothing from this accident, then Bill's death was a total waste. Ron Wanttaja |
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On Wed, 25 Mar 2009 23:19:55 -0700, Ron Wanttaja
wrote: Stealth Pilot wrote: some homebuilts have less than optimal design features but that is part of the character of them. every single homebuilt is different and lessons from one are seldom transferrable to another. from my perspective who cares what the NTSB attributes the crash to. Bill wont care. It wont bring him back. It wont stop people making poor design choices in homebuilts. I respect your attitude, but I do not share it. For one thing, the Lancair Legacy is not a "one-of." There are over 100 of them in the US registry alone. Bill had a "hired gun" build the Lancair; the man built at least three of them (in addition to at least one other type). So I think it's important that the current Legacy owners know whether there's a design flaw in the canopy latch. I think it's important for owners of the hired gun's other aircraft to know whether their builder had trouble getting the latch to work right. Almost fourteen years ago, Steve Wittman and his wife were killed in the crash of his O&O special. The accident resulted from his use of a mix of covering processes (Poly-fiber fabric attached with nitrate dope). Just *two weeks* ago, that accident was referenced in a Fly Baby mailing list discussion of covering and painting processes. About ten years ago, a very respected local homebuilder was killed. He died because he didn't tighten a nut. Every time I take a wrench to my airplane, I think of him and how even the best can make mistakes. So the lessons *do* get learned...but we need to do the research that reveals the truths. If we learn nothing from this accident, then Bill's death was a total waste. Ron Wanttaja we actually dont disagree Ron. Just be kind to Janice when it is done. she is not a machine and she can be damaged by the memories. if finding the facts is painful for her then desist. surely a builder of an aircraft can assess the suitability of the latch on his aircraft for himself. builders usually have some nouse. Stealth Pilot |
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"John Ammeter" wrote in message news:cO2dnWwn7PqpnlrUnZ2dnUVZ_q_inZ2d@cablespeedmi .com... Tommy, maybe you ought to get a room so you can toss off a few for Billy, too.... Vegas has a desginated driver service. I'll be there. |
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On Mar 26, 12:34*am, John Ammeter
wrote: She was in the airplane and suffered severe injuries... spent almost three months in the ICU, hospital, recovery center, etc... She has no memory of the accident or the day of the accident. John Stealth Pilot wrote: On Sun, 22 Mar 2009 20:34:02 -0700, John Ammeter wrote: For those of you that are near to Las Vegas.... The memorial service for Bill is April 18th (Saturday) at Palm Mortuary 6701 N. Jones Blvd. Las Vegas, NV 89131 starting at 1:00pm (702-464-8470) (800-542-2902) Bill died in the crash of his homebuilt airplane on October 18, 2008 near Parowan, Utah. *His wife, Janice, was severely injured in the accident. Bill was a rascally ol' good cookie. no doubt about it. what's happened to boom boom? she ok? Stealth Pilot Is she up and about and able to do things yet John or is she still under care. Monk |
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Great, Tom... looking forward to seeing you again.
John tom c wrote: "John Ammeter" wrote in message news:cO2dnWwn7PqpnlrUnZ2dnUVZ_q_inZ2d@cablespeedmi .com... Tommy, maybe you ought to get a room so you can toss off a few for Billy, too.... Vegas has a desginated driver service. I'll be there. |
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On Mar 26, 12:34*am, John Ammeter
wrote: She was in the airplane and suffered severe injuries... spent almost three months in the ICU, hospital, recovery center, etc... She has no memory of the accident or the day of the accident. John Is she up and about and able to do things yet John or is she still under care. Monk |
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