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Fast Boat Threat Faces Hail of Hellfires
On Dec 28, 9:23*am, Andrew Chaplin
wrote: wrote : On Dec 26, 2:02 am, "dott.Piergiorgio" wrote: [SNIP] Indeed. If we want to draw a parallel with weapons system of a century or so ago, the penguin is like the "secondary battery" available to helos, the main being the harpoon and the tertiary these navalisedhellfire.... I guess everyone can agree that a penguin is an overkill against pirate skiffs and iranian large RHIB and similiar types of pousserie Navale. Can any helicopters actually launch Harpoon? Global Security's page on the AGM-84 suggests not:http://www.globalsecurity.org/milita...ons/agm-84.htm. I remember seeing a theoretical Sea Apache drawing with Harpoon loaded, but obviously that never came to pass. |
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Fast Boat Threat Faces Hail of Hellfires
On 26 Dec, 08:09, wrote:
On Dec 25, 5:25*am, "dott.Piergiorgio" wrote: {SNIP} the ~8km range of the hellfire and the inherent low stealthiness of helos on the open sea preclude stand-off attacks against ships above ~400 tons, that is, capable of carrying guns from 57mm up and/or missiles around the seasparrow size. {SNIP} Dott. Piergiorgio. Isn't that what Penguin is for?: http://www.fas.org/man/dod-101/sys/missile/agm-119.htm I would go with Sea Skua :-) Guy |
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Fast Boat Threat Faces Hail of Hellfires
On Dec 28 2009, 2:50*pm, guy wrote:
On 26 Dec, 08:09, wrote: On Dec 25, 5:25*am, "dott.Piergiorgio" wrote: {SNIP} the ~8km range of thehellfireand the inherent low stealthiness of helos on the open sea preclude stand-off attacks against ships above ~400 tons, that is, capable of carrying guns from 57mm up and/or missiles around the seasparrow size. {SNIP} Dott. Piergiorgio. Isn't that what Penguin is for?: http://www.fas.org/man/dod-101/sys/missile/agm-119.htm I would go with Sea Skua :-) Guy Doesn't Sea Skua require the launching helo to maintain line-of-sight to the target, since Sea Skua uses semi-active radar homing (like the Sparrow AAM)? With Penguin, you can launch & leave, or just duck back down below the radar horizon after firing. With 3rd party targeting info from a UAV or other source, the launching platform can fire Penguin without ever even seeing (or being seen by) the target directly. |
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Fast Boat Threat Faces Hail of Hellfires
On Jan 1, 8:35*am, "Paul J. Adam"
wrote: In message , writes Doesn't Sea Skua require the launching helo to maintain line-of-sight to the target, since Sea Skua uses semi-active radar homing (like the Sparrow AAM)? Correct: chosen because it gives more discrimination & control if there are multiple contacts in the water. (Skua & its Sea Spray radar were designed to keep the Lynx handily out of SA-N-4 range: a primary target was the Nanuchka-class FFL) With Penguin, you can launch & leave, or just duck back down below the radar horizon after firing. *With 3rd party targeting info from a UAV or other source, the launching platform can fire Penguin without ever even seeing (or being seen by) the target directly. However, you only get one or two Penguin, while a Lynx can carry four Skua. A lot depends on who, where and how you expect to be fighting. -- He thinks too much, such men are dangerous. Paul J. Adam Like the Japanese with the torpedoes and bombs dilemma at Wake. |
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