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Old March 1st 05, 12:55 AM
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According to the cover page,

Issued by
The Office of the Chief of Naval Operations
Aviation Training Division
U.S. Navy, 1960
Revised January 1965

Which means the US Navy owns the copyright, not an individual.

The new cover on the book attributes

Naval Air Systems Command
US Navy

Looks like anyone is allowed to republish it, being a US Govt. doc.
I notice both ASA and Jeppesen have reprints available.


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Old March 1st 05, 12:57 AM
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There seem to be a number of copies of Aerodynamics for Naval Aviators on
ebay.

"private" wrote in message
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available on the net I have been hoping to find Aerodynamics for Naval
Aviators, but have failed on the USAF or FAA sites or using a Google

search
on the title or government publishing number NAVWEPS 00-80T-80. The book
was issued by the USNaval operations training division in 1965 and I hoped
it was on a Navy publications site but I have no URL If the author



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Old March 1st 05, 12:58 AM
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"Dudley Henriques" wrote in message
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I've had my copy since 1997. But then, I started flying later in life.


It's funny how the mind works sometimes.
Here I sit after all these years. and reading this. Just for a second I

had
a flashback to the day I soloed.
I was seventeen. The airplane was a North American AT6 owned by a friend

of
my father. For just a
second I could see it all in my mind's eye......the whole scene....I
could
feel the heat from the sun and the
wind on my face as I taxied through that last left turn to face down the

old
grass runway at an airport that is now a shopping center......the sounds

of
the engine......even the smell of the old gray paint chipped
cockpit. Funny.
Thanks :-)))
Dudley



Glad to have caused the recall of a happy memory.

May the skies in your mind always be blue.


Thank you. Best of luck with your book quest.
DH


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Old March 1st 05, 01:01 AM
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"private" wrote in message
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I downloaded the some good books from http://www.e-publishing.af.mil

thanks for the links C J C

Is there an online source for "Aerodynamics for Naval Aviators"?


If you dig a lot, you can come up with the Navy
Fixed Wing Performance Flight Test Manual.
I think it tops the Aerodynamics For Naval Aviators for page count
but most of it is geared more for flight testing and the last
section is a bunch of mission profiles. Uses nearly a ream of paper
if you make a hard copy.

You may also try for:
Olson, Aircraft Performance Flight Testing (AFFTC-TIH-99-01)
I think I found this from a link off of the Edwards web pages.

Another free source is selected notes and papers found on the
NASA/NACA pages. The information is there but some of the
notation is an older style and harder to follow if you are used
to the more modern texts. You'll have to do a lot of digging to
get the same information since many of the papers are very specific
to certain areas such as propellers. This is the only place I've ever
seen the math with a factor for biplanes.

I bought the book. Aerodynamics For Naval Aviators
will be generally easier to understand if you don't already have
a good foundation in aerodynamics.

Another easy book is:
Smith, The Illustrated Guide To Aerodynamics.
This one is geared more toward general aviation aircraft.



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Old March 1st 05, 01:22 AM
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We define angle of attack as the angle formed between the leading edge of
the wing and the relative wind.
The angle of incidence would be the angular difference between the
longitidunal axis of the airplane and a line drawn through the leading and
trailing edges of the wing.(Chord Line)


Isn't the "angle of attack" as defined above really the angle between
the chord line and the relative wind? The leading edge is a line in a
totally different direction.

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Old March 1st 05, 01:28 AM
Dudley Henriques
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You are right. Chord line is absolutely correct. (Senior moment :-)
DH

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We define angle of attack as the angle formed between the leading edge of
the wing and the relative wind.
The angle of incidence would be the angular difference between the
longitidunal axis of the airplane and a line drawn through the leading
and trailing edges of the wing.(Chord Line)


Isn't the "angle of attack" as defined above really the angle between the
chord line and the relative wind? The leading edge is a line in a totally
different direction.

Jose
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Nothing is more powerful than a commercial interest.
for Email, make the obvious change in the address.



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Old March 1st 05, 01:52 AM
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"Dudley Henriques" wrote in message
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We define
The angle of incidence would be the angular difference between the
longitidunal axis of the airplane and a line drawn through the leading and
trailing edges of the wing.(Chord Line)


That was how I have always defined the term, Kermode calls this the riggers
angle of incidence and says it is a left over from rag wing biplanes that
adjust the riggers angle to tune handling. It is my understanding that some
ac have slightly differing angles of incidence on each side.

Blue skies to all


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Old March 1st 05, 02:06 AM
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"private" wrote
The book was issued by the USNaval
operations training division in 1965



Hmmmm.... I was issued my copy in 1958 at NAS Pensacola.

Bob Moore
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Old March 1st 05, 02:07 AM
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It would be interesting to know the angles of incidence on each wing of the
Griffon powered Mk 14 Spitfire.
DH
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"Dudley Henriques" wrote in message
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We define
The angle of incidence would be the angular difference between the
longitidunal axis of the airplane and a line drawn through the leading
and
trailing edges of the wing.(Chord Line)


That was how I have always defined the term, Kermode calls this the
riggers
angle of incidence and says it is a left over from rag wing biplanes that
adjust the riggers angle to tune handling. It is my understanding that
some
ac have slightly differing angles of incidence on each side.

Blue skies to all




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Old March 1st 05, 02:12 AM
Dudley Henriques
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H.H. Hurt did the original for the Navy I think. I'm showing the original
printing in 1960 when I got mine. There was a revision printed in 65.
Dudley Henriques
International Fighter Pilots Fellowship
Commercial Pilot; CFI; Retired
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(take out the trash :-)

"Bob Moore" wrote in message
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"private" wrote
The book was issued by the USNaval
operations training division in 1965



Hmmmm.... I was issued my copy in 1958 at NAS Pensacola.

Bob Moore



 




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