advantages of cable lacing?

From: Sam Goldwasser
Date: 1/8/2005 18:01 Central Standard Time
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CJT writes:

wrote:
cable lacing... a lost art.
Is there anything that a laced cable-bundle does better than a
tie-wrapped cable-bundle?


Lacing might contribute a little extra strength in the long direction.

Plus, as others have noted, it looks better.

And, you don't get flesh wounds from the cut ends of nylon cable ties.

You won't get scratched by cable ties if you cut them off flush with the nut.

Dan, U.S, Air Force, retired

From: (Floyd L. Davidson)
Date: 1/9/2005 11:09 Central Standard Time
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"Blueskies" wrote:
"Henry Kolesnik" wrote in message
.com...
No one has mentioned that cable mining is much safer and easier with laced
cables and can be impossible with ty
wrapped cables.

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73
Hank WD5JFR


What is cable mining?

New cables are laid into cable racks on top of old cables, and
the old ones that are no longer used are just cut off where they
enter the cable rack and left in place. Eventually, of course,
the cable rack fills up with old unused cable.


When I used to work C-130s I would get called out to identify "extra" cannon
plugs that didn't seem to attach to anything. Most commonly were the 2 behind
the instrument panel that went to the old ADI and ADI amp. I wonder if they are
still there.

Dan, U.S. Air Force, retired

From: Ross Herbert
Date: 1/9/2005 23:57 Central Standard Time
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On Sun, 9 Jan 2005 07:34:13 -0800, "Ron" no one @home.com wrote:

BOY! These 'How-To' websites certainly bring back memories. These are the
methods, procedures, & materials we used when I hired on with Western
Electric in the early 50s. In those days we used tons of #6 & #12 cord for
securing gazillions of feet of telephone cables inside the telephone company
switching central offices. We also got lots of blisters & calluses while
making the cabling look neat & secure. Cable mining? YUK!


Ron, with SxS every cable run was intricately planned and the
individual cables in a block had to occupy a pre-determined location
in the block so that the cables would fall out at both ends without
any cross-overs.

On my end as an avionics tech was rebuilding a harness without the benefit of a
block. What's more fun is when you get "help" from someone who thinks they know
what they are doing. In the 1970s I rewired the pilot's instrument panel of a
T-39. Each wire was cut to length, hot stamped with its number and soldered to
its firewall disconnect (there were 3). I set this aside and went home
expecting to finish it up when I returned. Imagine my surprise when there were
3 brand new connectors, a full set of wires cut to length and marked and no
sign of the work I had done. It seems a certain young sergeant decided to tidy
up my wiring by cutting all the wires to the same length.

Dan, U.S. Air Force, retired

B2431 wrote:
From: (Floyd L. Davidson)
Date: 1/9/2005 11:09 Central Standard Time
Message-id:

"Blueskies" wrote:

"Henry Kolesnik" wrote in message

y.com...

No one has mentioned that cable mining is much safer and easier with laced

cables and can be impossible with ty

wrapped cables.

--

73
Hank WD5JFR


What is cable mining?

New cables are laid into cable racks on top of old cables, and
the old ones that are no longer used are just cut off where they
enter the cable rack and left in place. Eventually, of course,
the cable rack fills up with old unused cable.



When I used to work C-130s I would get called out to identify "extra" cannon
plugs that didn't seem to attach to anything. Most commonly were the 2 behind
the instrument panel that went to the old ADI and ADI amp. I wonder if they are
still there.

Probably. Why would you take them out unless you replaced the harness?

Matt

Both are real no-no's and a quick trip to being put out on the street
in the aircraft industry. An open flame in one of our work stations
will get you kicked off the flight line and a minimum of one week off
without pay for being extremely stupid and reckless endangerment.
Craig C.