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Experimentals To Be Banned To Rural Airports?
"Bob Noel" wrote in message
... In article Y4Htk.1161$Ro1.744@trnddc04, "Mike" wrote: Nobody wants to give up their "right" to drive with a cell phone, ignore speed limits, run stop lights, etc. even though such activity puts other people at risk. "drive with a cell phone" .... ohmygawd. Hey, what about drive with one of those GPS thingies, or changing CDs or scanning thru XM radio or....? Maybe we should require a sterile car so that nothing, absolutely nothing can distract the driver. (yep - this crusade about talking on a cellphone is a hot button for me). Crusade all you want. Argue from silly extremes all you want. Talking on the phone while driving increases risk of having a serious accident by 4-5 times. But you prove my point beautifully. People don't really give a rat's arse about being safer if it inconvieniences them, even if the inconvienience is slight. |
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Experimentals To Be Banned To Rural Airports?
"Mike" wrote in message news:tNRtk.1134$w51.346@trnddc01... "Bob Noel" wrote in message ... In article Y4Htk.1161$Ro1.744@trnddc04, "Mike" wrote: Nobody wants to give up their "right" to drive with a cell phone, ignore speed limits, run stop lights, etc. even though such activity puts other people at risk. "drive with a cell phone" .... ohmygawd. Hey, what about drive with one of those GPS thingies, or changing CDs or scanning thru XM radio or....? Maybe we should require a sterile car so that nothing, absolutely nothing can distract the driver. (yep - this crusade about talking on a cellphone is a hot button for me). Crusade all you want. Argue from silly extremes all you want. Talking on the phone while driving increases risk of having a serious accident by 4-5 times. But you prove my point beautifully. People don't really give a rat's arse about being safer if it inconvieniences them, even if the inconvienience is slight. Got any data to support that? |
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Experimentals To Be Banned To Rural Airports?
"Ramsey" @##@.^net wrote in message
news "Mike" wrote in message news:tNRtk.1134$w51.346@trnddc01... "Bob Noel" wrote in message ... In article Y4Htk.1161$Ro1.744@trnddc04, "Mike" wrote: Nobody wants to give up their "right" to drive with a cell phone, ignore speed limits, run stop lights, etc. even though such activity puts other people at risk. "drive with a cell phone" .... ohmygawd. Hey, what about drive with one of those GPS thingies, or changing CDs or scanning thru XM radio or....? Maybe we should require a sterile car so that nothing, absolutely nothing can distract the driver. (yep - this crusade about talking on a cellphone is a hot button for me). Crusade all you want. Argue from silly extremes all you want. Talking on the phone while driving increases risk of having a serious accident by 4-5 times. But you prove my point beautifully. People don't really give a rat's arse about being safer if it inconvieniences them, even if the inconvienience is slight. Got any data to support that? Yes. Your google broke? |
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Experimentals To Be Banned To Rural Airports?
Steve Foley wrote:
"T. "Tim" Timothy Haag aka HyoogeUmp56" wrote in message ... http://www.avweb.com/eletter/archives/avflash/1199-full.html#198676 'Clark County Aviation Director Randy Walker said he thinks experimental airplanes should be restricted to airports that are located in less densely populated areas. "I think the regulatory process on airport systems need to be revisited in the coming weeks. I am going to ask to meet with the members of our congressional delegation to see if something can be done," he said at a news conference. "I do not believe under our circumstances that experimental and high-risk aircraft operations, such as training and solo flights, belong in an urban airport," he said.' Seems pretty short-sighted for an Aviation Director. I also think it's naive for him to think that anything will be done "in the coming weeks". Other dangerous flight this yahoo wants banned from urban areas, "training and solo flights." |
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Experimentals To Be Banned To Rural Airports?
"Mike" wrote in message news:s9Stk.1198$Ro1.612@trnddc04... "Ramsey" @##@.^net wrote in message news "Mike" wrote in message news:tNRtk.1134$w51.346@trnddc01... "Bob Noel" wrote in message ... In article Y4Htk.1161$Ro1.744@trnddc04, "Mike" wrote: Nobody wants to give up their "right" to drive with a cell phone, ignore speed limits, run stop lights, etc. even though such activity puts other people at risk. "drive with a cell phone" .... ohmygawd. Hey, what about drive with one of those GPS thingies, or changing CDs or scanning thru XM radio or....? Maybe we should require a sterile car so that nothing, absolutely nothing can distract the driver. (yep - this crusade about talking on a cellphone is a hot button for me). Crusade all you want. Argue from silly extremes all you want. Talking on the phone while driving increases risk of having a serious accident by 4-5 times. But you prove my point beautifully. People don't really give a rat's arse about being safer if it inconvieniences them, even if the inconvienience is slight. Got any data to support that? Yes. Your google broke? Do your own homework piggy. Put up, shut, or you my bitch. |
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Experimentals To Be Banned To Rural Airports?
Guess the moron will be calling for an end to all flights now since
this was not and experimental and not on a training or initial solo operation. BT wrote: Sadly another airplane has crashed in the vicinity of the North Las Vegas airport. A Piper Navajo departed VGT and shortly after departure he called the tower that he was returning with a rough running engine. The pilot was solo, no pax. Witnesses on the ground reported the aircraft was on fire and fire crews were responding to meet the aircraft at the airport when it crashed short of the runway in a local neighborhood. There were no fatalities to people on the ground. BT "T. "Tim" Timothy Haag aka HyoogeUmp56" wrote in message ... http://www.avweb.com/eletter/archives/avflash/1199-full.html#198676 |
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Experimentals To Be Banned To Rural Airports?
"Mike" wrote in message news:s9Stk.1198$Ro1.612@trnddc04... "Ramsey" @##@.^net wrote in message news "Mike" wrote in message news:tNRtk.1134$w51.346@trnddc01... "Bob Noel" wrote in message ... In article Y4Htk.1161$Ro1.744@trnddc04, "Mike" wrote: Nobody wants to give up their "right" to drive with a cell phone, ignore speed limits, run stop lights, etc. even though such activity puts other people at risk. "drive with a cell phone" .... ohmygawd. Hey, what about drive with one of those GPS thingies, or changing CDs or scanning thru XM radio or....? Maybe we should require a sterile car so that nothing, absolutely nothing can distract the driver. (yep - this crusade about talking on a cellphone is a hot button for me). Crusade all you want. Argue from silly extremes all you want. Talking on the phone while driving increases risk of having a serious accident by 4-5 times. But you prove my point beautifully. People don't really give a rat's arse about being safer if it inconvieniences them, even if the inconvienience is slight. Got any data to support that? Yes. Your google broke? Your bluffs been called, show your cards or fold your hand. PS. We have laws about proper vehicle operation already, we don't need new laws that call out specific activiries. Enforce what we have already |
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Experimentals To Be Banned To Rural Airports?
On Aug 28, 11:25*pm, "BT" wrote:
Sadly another airplane has crashed in the vicinity of the North Las Vegas airport. A Piper Navajo departed VGT and shortly after departure he called the tower that he was returning with a rough running engine. The pilot was solo, no pax. Witnesses on the ground reported the aircraft was on fire and fire crews were responding to meet the aircraft at the airport when it crashed short of the runway in a local neighborhood. There were no fatalities to people on the ground. BT "T. "Tim" Timothy Haag aka HyoogeUmp56" wrote in g... http://www.avweb.com/eletter/archives/avflash/1199-full.html#198676- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - What about the pilot? Did he survive? |
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Experimentals To Be Banned To Rural Airports?
In article o8Rtk.1053$p72.867@trnddc05,
"Steve Foley" wrote: "BT" wrote in message ... Part of the statements of Mr Walker that are not published in AvWeb, but was on CNN nation wide, were that he also wants to ban student pilots and training. Those statements were included in the AvWeb story: 'I do not believe under our circumstances that experimental and high-risk aircraft operations, such as training and solo flights, belong in an urban airport," he said.' If the latter is a correct quote, Mr. Walker is an idiot. |
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Experimentals To Be Banned To Rural Airports?
Bob F. writes:
First an "experimental" aircraft in aviation talk is just another classification. The characteristics may be well known and just doesn't fit into any other class. My impression is that many aircraft are called experimental in order to get around certain troublesome regulations. Secondly, I have personally flown a number of experimental Boeing aircraft into LAX when I worked for the flight test group there. I believe B747-100 s/n 1 is still classified as experimental. And I flew B401, 2 and 3 (the first 3 747-400 designated a/c). They too were classified as experimental and flew into a lot of large airports with heavy population. How many hours had they flown elsewhere before they visited those large airports? |
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