USS America to be sunk off East Coast

In article , Tiger
wrote:
Well instead of letting them freeze, we'll drive them to your place. 5
Pm Ok with you???

I think you miss the point. I don't want homeless people sleeping
in my front yard. I want to find nice housing for them. An
aircraft carrier can hold thousands, and they are built for war,
so they should be able to hold up to the every day wear and tear
from a community of homeless people.

One idea that people are working on is to convert the mountains
of shipping containers into pre-fab homeless housing. In the
case of an aircraft carrier, you have almost all of the facilities
you need right there, so there wouldn't be much conversion to do.
We could even stack containers on the flight deck and make a
high rise unit to increase the capacity of the housing.

-john-

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"John A. Weeks III" wrote in
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So, you are in favor of letting homeless people freeze to death
sleeping under freeway overpasses and in rail yards in the harsh
cold winter climates in the northern lattitudes?

-john-

Hmmm... let's see - harsh cold winter climates in the vicinity of ports
capable of supporting a carrier in a non-profit capacity:

West coast - Bremerton and Seattle don't have harsh cold winter climates,
nor do any ports south of there

East coast - Boston - not a likely candidate; small port
NY - maybe, but unlikely due to financials
Phila - See Boston and NY
Ports south - don't have harsh cold winter climates

So you would be proposing to not only house the homeless on this carrier,
but to transport them from their "home" cities to whatever port the
government can suck into hosting it.

BTW, John, have you ever lived on an aircraft carrier? Further responses
on my part depend on your answer.

Dave in San Diego
USS Midway, '80 - '83

In article ,
Dave in San Diego wrote:

So you would be proposing to not only house the homeless on this carrier,
but to transport them from their "home" cities to whatever port the
government can suck into hosting it.

Sure. There are a lot of empty port facilities, so there should
be cities out there that would be happy to bring in a major
government white elephant project. There are lots of busses out
there. Greyhound has been hurting for years, so I think they
could give the government a good deal on transporting these
homeless people to their new home.

BTW, John, have you ever lived on an aircraft carrier? Further responses
on my part depend on your answer.

No. But how could that possibly make any difference. Have you
ever had a job working with the homeless people on a day to day
basis? If your answer is no, then are you really qualified to
respond any further?

-john-

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"John A. Weeks III" wrote in message
...
In article et,
"D" wrote:

I just read in Defense News that the carrier USS America is going to be
sunk
in tests off the East Coast of the US. They will detonate various
explosives aboard her to determine how much damage she takes.

This is a travesty. They should tie up this ship next to some
major city, and use it for housing homeless people. An aircraft
carrier can hold 5000 or more people when sailing, so it should
be no big deal to house 1000 homeless people, plus have deck
space for another 500 tents. After all, the ship has all the
living facilities like bunks, state rooms, plumbing, bathing,
kitchens, cafeterias, etc. It is a shame to let such a valuable
resource be destroyed like this.


And who exactly is going to pay for the maintenance, running costs,
security, utilities and harbour space ?

If you want an accomodation hulk a disused liner or cruise ship
is a FAR better bet and much more cost effective, better yet
any offshore yard will build one on a barge pretty quickly
and it'll be FAR cheaper than refurbishing and making safe
a CV which will definitely NOT meet the safety requirements
imposed by any fire department in the USA.

Keith

Keith W wrote:
If you want an accomodation hulk a disused liner or cruise ship
is a FAR better bet and much more cost effective, better yet
any offshore yard will build one on a barge pretty quickly
and it'll be FAR cheaper than refurbishing and making safe
a CV which will definitely NOT meet the safety requirements
imposed by any fire department in the USA.

Oh, it could, but before anyone could move aboard, you'd first have
to send them (all 5000 residents) to basic firefighting school, then
have recurrent training such as "general quarters" at least once a
week and a main space fire drill about once a month...

....Not to mention teaching them all of the petty "survival" tricks and
cultural understanding needed to thrive on shipboard, such as (for example):

* Water hours.
* Smoking lamp.
* Visiting the seabat.
* Mail buoy watches.
* Knowing when potable water is available from the scuttlebutt (and
conversely, knowing when you could refill your Zippo from the same source).
* Enjoying the Nth rerun of the same movie.

Etc.

--
Mike Kanze

"One phrase that no Member of Congress should ever use lightly is 'political
hack.' The ironic possibilities are too rich."

- Wall Street Journal (3/7/05)




"Jim Carriere" wrote in message
...
Keith W wrote:
If you want an accomodation hulk a disused liner or cruise ship
is a FAR better bet and much more cost effective, better yet
any offshore yard will build one on a barge pretty quickly
and it'll be FAR cheaper than refurbishing and making safe
a CV which will definitely NOT meet the safety requirements
imposed by any fire department in the USA.

Oh, it could, but before anyone could move aboard, you'd first have to
send them (all 5000 residents) to basic firefighting school, then have
recurrent training such as "general quarters" at least once a week and a
main space fire drill about once a month...

Mike Kanze wrote:
...Not to mention teaching them all of the petty "survival" tricks and
cultural understanding needed to thrive on shipboard, such as (for example):

* Water hours.
* Smoking lamp.
* Visiting the seabat.
* Mail buoy watches.
* Knowing when potable water is available from the scuttlebutt (and
conversely, knowing when you could refill your Zippo from the same source).
* Enjoying the Nth rerun of the same movie.

Etc.

LOL...
powdered eggs with Texas Pete sauce on top for breakfast
sliders and autodog

John A. Weeks III wrote:

In article et,
"D" wrote:



I just read in Defense News that the carrier USS America is going to be sunk
in tests off the East Coast of the US. They will detonate various
explosives aboard her to determine how much damage she takes.



This is a travesty. They should tie up this ship next to some
major city, and use it for housing homeless people. An aircraft
carrier can hold 5000 or more people when sailing, so it should
be no big deal to house 1000 homeless people, plus have deck
space for another 500 tents. After all, the ship has all the
living facilities like bunks, state rooms, plumbing, bathing,
kitchens, cafeterias, etc. It is a shame to let such a valuable
resource be destroyed like this.

-john-



Are you serious? :-\