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Way off topic, but it has do to with the French
"Kloudy via AviationKB.com" u33403@uwe wrote in news:805e36adba0cd@uwe:
wrote: Hey, you forgot the Dutch. -Kees. Nah, the flems were OK. In some places in Europe, especially Spain, tourism has grown into a plague. An absolute infestation.. You gotta wonder why someone goes to another country and tries to make it just like where they came from.. Bertie |
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Way off topic, but it has do to with rednecks
"Jay Honeck" wrote in
news:Frfxj.52109$9j6.29622@attbi_s22: Now, of course, you can argue that success took too long, and cost too many lives, and we shouldn't have invaded, and any of a hundred other postulations -- but the bottom line is this: At this point we need a stable, peaceful, Iraq, allied with us against AQ and radical Islam. Gen. Petraeus and the U.S. Army is making that happen, and -- although it's still a tenuous situation -- it's a beautiful thing to see, after so much bloodshed and waste. You're an idiot. Bertie |
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Way off topic, but it has do to with the French upgraded to equal opportunity insulter
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Way off topic, but it has do to with rednecks
Funny, I haven't heard of the government putting people through industrial
shredders lately. Nor have I heard of sports teams being forced to crawl across broken bottles because they lost. Haven't heard about government-sponsored rape rooms, either. If you cannot appreciate the enormous progress we have made so far, I suggest you become better informed. Baghdad is safer than the closest major metropolitan area to where I live. The problem with our country is exemplified by your attitude. We no longer value freedom, ours or any one else's. Because we don't value it, there is nothing we are willing to sacrifice. From the days of Kennedy's vow to "bear any burden, pay any price" we have devolved to ignoring -- or wanting to ignore -- the rest of the world. And we still represent the best the world has to offer. Nobody but Canada, England or the Dutch have any willingness to lift a finger to help us or anyone else. Most people do not want freedom, all they seek is a benevolent master. Our country was the all-too-brief exception. In other words, if things keep "improving", Iraq may someday get back to levels of pre-invasion days. As far as the "increasingly happy" Iraqi citizens, I'm not sure if that means last year they were 10% happy and this year they are 15% happy? Please explain. Do you really think I need and want the sense of law and order that normal Iraqis currently possess? |
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Way off topic, but it has do to with rednecks
I guess we can just look at your last sentence: You see beauty. I'm
afraid more than a few of us see bloodshed and waste. I see a goal that is within reach. -- Jay Honeck Iowa City, IA Pathfinder N56993 www.AlexisParkInn.com "Your Aviation Destination" |
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Way off topic, but it has do to with rednecks
"Jay Honeck" wrote in news:j9qxj.53146$yE1.41114
@attbi_s21: I guess we can just look at your last sentence: You see beauty. I'm afraid more than a few of us see bloodshed and waste. I see a goal that is within reach. Of course you do! Bertie |
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Way off topic, but it has do to with rednecks
Increasingly hard to argue against those points except on one: Hussein was
a bully, and with regard to Afghanistan, most Americans don't view themselves as "bullying" Al Qaeda anymore than they viewed themselves as fighting WWII "bullying" after Pearl Harbor. They attacked us. Who in Afghanistan attacked you? What was the nationality of those involved in 9/11? |
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Way off topic, but it has do to with rednecks
On Feb 28, 4:36*am, "Jay Honeck" wrote:
Now, of course, you can argue that success took too long, and cost too many lives, and we shouldn't have invaded, and any of a hundred other postulations -- but the bottom line is this: *At this point we need a stable, peaceful, Iraq, allied with us against AQ and radical Islam. * Sounds a bit like the Iraq that existed before the US told Saddam it was OK to bring Kuwait back into greater Iraq doncha think? Cheers |
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Way off topic, but it has do to with rednecks
tim wrote:
Increasingly hard to argue against those points except on one: Hussein was a bully, and with regard to Afghanistan, most Americans don't view themselves as "bullying" Al Qaeda anymore than they viewed themselves as fighting WWII "bullying" after Pearl Harbor. They attacked us. Who in Afghanistan attacked you? What was the nationality of those involved in 9/11? It was very clear at the time that the masterminds behind the 9/11 attacks were in Afghanistan. It was also clear that AQ was training in Afghanistan. Hell, the Afghanistan government didn't even deny it. We told them very clearly that they either turn those responsible over or we would come in and get them. They basically said, "bring it" so we did. Did we get all of them? No. But we did pretty well. And last time I checked there hasn't been a terrorist attack on US soil since. |
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Way off topic, but it has do to with rednecks
WingFlaps wrote:
Sounds a bit like the Iraq that existed before the US told Saddam it was OK to bring Kuwait back into greater Iraq doncha think? Cheers Bull$hit myth. In late July 1990, as negotiations between Iraq and Kuwait stalled, Iraq massed troops on Kuwait’s borders and summoned American Ambassador April Glaspie to an unanticipated meeting with Iraqi President Saddam Hussein. Two transcripts of that meeting have been produced, both of them controversial. In them, Saddam outlined his grievances against Kuwait, while promising that he would not invade Kuwait before one more round of negotiations. In the version published by The New York Times on September 23, 1990, Glaspie expressed concern over the troop buildup to Saddam Hussein: "We have no opinion on the Arab-Arab conflicts, like your border disagreement with Kuwait. I was in the American Embassy in Kuwait during the late ’60s. The instruction we had during this period was that we should express no opinion on this issue and that the issue is not associated with America. James Baker has directed our official spokesmen to emphasize this instruction. We hope you can solve this problem using any suitable methods via [Chadli] Klibi [then Arab League General Secretary] or via President Mubarak. All that we hope is that these issues are solved quickly. With regard to all of this, can I ask you to see how the issue appears to us? "My assessment after 25 years' service in this area is that your objective must have strong backing from your Arab brothers. I now speak of oil. But you, Mr. President, have fought through a horrific and painful war. Frankly, we can see only that you have deployed massive troops in the south. Normally that would not be any of our business. But when this happens in the context of what you said on your national day, then when we read the details in the two letters of the Foreign Minister, then when we see the Iraqi point of view that the measures taken by the U.A.E. and Kuwait is, in the final analysis, parallel to military aggression against Iraq, then it would be reasonable for me to be concerned. And for this reason, I received an instruction to ask you, in the spirit of friendship -- not in the spirit of confrontation -- regarding your intentions. "I simply describe the position of my Government. And I do not mean that the situation is a simple situation. But our concern is a simple one." |
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