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On 04/02/2016 14:17, Joseph Testagrose wrote:

If you're wondering what it says on the side of the aircraft, it's in
Welsh. The first word is "school" and the other two are place names, and
"y" is "and".

As to why it should be on the side of the aircraft, there's more
information he

http://discovery.nationalarchives.go...ails/r/C583527

http://www.ysgolytywyn.com/p/about-o...-ysgol-ni.html

Ri©ardo

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On Thu, 4 Feb 2016 17:09:26 +0000, Ri©ardo
wrote:

On 04/02/2016 14:17, Joseph Testagrose wrote:

If you're wondering what it says on the side of the aircraft, it's in
Welsh. The first word is "school" and the other two are place names, and
"y" is "and".

Same in Spanish. I'm sure there is a reason...

The UN should airdrop a load of vowels into Wales. And remind them
that y is only ~sometimes~ a vowel... =)

As to why it should be on the side of the aircraft, there's more
information he

http://discovery.nationalarchives.go...ails/r/C583527

http://www.ysgolytywyn.com/p/about-o...-ysgol-ni.html

Ri©ardo

On 05/02/2016 10:08, Bob (not my real pseudonym) wrote:
On Thu, 4 Feb 2016 17:09:26 +0000, Ri©ardo
wrote:

On 04/02/2016 14:17, Joseph Testagrose wrote:

If you're wondering what it says on the side of the aircraft, it's in
Welsh. The first word is "school" and the other two are place names, and
"y" is "and".

Same in Spanish. I'm sure there is a reason...

The UN should airdrop a load of vowels into Wales. And remind them
that y is only ~sometimes~ a vowel... =)


Don't forget that Welsh language and its cousins pre-date "English"!

I like Wales, it's somewhere were we holiday a lot, being less than an
hour's drive away, although my Spanish is far better than my Welsh.


As to why it should be on the side of the aircraft, there's more
information he

http://discovery.nationalarchives.go...ails/r/C583527

http://www.ysgolytywyn.com/p/about-o...-ysgol-ni.html

Ri©ardo

Ri©ardo

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Moving Things In Still Pictures

On Fri, 5 Feb 2016 12:25:18 +0000, Ri©ardo
wrote:

On 05/02/2016 10:08, Bob (not my real pseudonym) wrote:
On Thu, 4 Feb 2016 17:09:26 +0000, Ri©ardo
wrote:

On 04/02/2016 14:17, Joseph Testagrose wrote:

If you're wondering what it says on the side of the aircraft, it's in
Welsh. The first word is "school" and the other two are place names, and
"y" is "and".

Same in Spanish. I'm sure there is a reason...

The UN should airdrop a load of vowels into Wales. And remind them
that y is only ~sometimes~ a vowel... =)


Don't forget that Welsh language and its cousins pre-date "English"!

I like Wales, it's somewhere were we holiday a lot, being less than an
hour's drive away, although my Spanish is far better than my Welsh.

I have an utterly unsubstantiated suspicion that my family tree might
have a root or two there. No elders left to pick brains of...

I know I visited with my family when I was quite young; vague memories
of places with names long enough to make even a German gasp for
breath.

As to why it should be on the side of the aircraft, there's more
information he

http://discovery.nationalarchives.go...ails/r/C583527

http://www.ysgolytywyn.com/p/about-o...-ysgol-ni.html

Ri©ardo

Ri©ardo

On 06/02/2016 13:12, Bob (not my real pseudonym) wrote:
On Fri, 5 Feb 2016 12:25:18 +0000, Ri©ardo
wrote:

On 05/02/2016 10:08, Bob (not my real pseudonym) wrote:
On Thu, 4 Feb 2016 17:09:26 +0000, Ri©ardo
wrote:

On 04/02/2016 14:17, Joseph Testagrose wrote:

If you're wondering what it says on the side of the aircraft, it's in
Welsh. The first word is "school" and the other two are place names, and
"y" is "and".

Same in Spanish. I'm sure there is a reason...

The UN should airdrop a load of vowels into Wales. And remind them
that y is only ~sometimes~ a vowel... =)


Don't forget that Welsh language and its cousins pre-date "English"!

I like Wales, it's somewhere were we holiday a lot, being less than an
hour's drive away, although my Spanish is far better than my Welsh.

I have an utterly unsubstantiated suspicion that my family tree might
have a root or two there. No elders left to pick brains of...

I know I visited with my family when I was quite young; vague memories
of places with names long enough to make even a German gasp for
breath.


:-)

It's a country with views to die for!

;-)

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Moving Things In Still Pictures

On Thu, 4 Feb 2016 17:09:26 +0000, Ri©ardo
wrote:

On 04/02/2016 14:17, Joseph Testagrose wrote:

If you're wondering what it says on the side of the aircraft, it's in
Welsh. The first word is "school" and the other two are place names, and
"y" is "and".

"y" or "yr" is "the" ( and sometimes also "per" )
"a" is "and"
"o" is "of"
"Tywyn" is "Port"

so the Phrase translates literally to School the Port

A funny old language is Welsh. In comparison to English, the word
order usually puts the cart before the horse. And depending upon the
preceding word, the first letter of the following word can change, but
from an early age I could say
Llanfairpwllgwyngyllgogerychwyrndrobwllllantysilio gogogoch - the only
word I know with fours Ls in a row.


As to why it should be on the side of the aircraft, there's more
information he

http://discovery.nationalarchives.go...ails/r/C583527

http://www.ysgolytywyn.com/p/about-o...-ysgol-ni.html

Ri©ardo

On Fri, 05 Feb 2016 13:54:11 -0500, wrote:

On Thu, 4 Feb 2016 17:09:26 +0000, Ri©ardo
wrote:

On 04/02/2016 14:17, Joseph Testagrose wrote:

If you're wondering what it says on the side of the aircraft, it's in
Welsh. The first word is "school" and the other two are place names, and
"y" is "and".

"y" or "yr" is "the" ( and sometimes also "per" )
"a" is "and"
"o" is "of"
"Tywyn" is "Port"

so the Phrase translates literally to School the Port

A funny old language is Welsh. In comparison to English, the word
order usually puts the cart before the horse. And depending upon the
preceding word, the first letter of the following word can change, but
from an early age I could say
Llanfairpwllgwyngyllgogerychwyrndrobwllllantysili ogogogoch - the only
word I know with fours Ls in a row.

I think I remember my dad trying to teach me that word. I managed to
get all the way to the first L.

As to why it should be on the side of the aircraft, there's more
information he

http://discovery.nationalarchives.go...ails/r/C583527

http://www.ysgolytywyn.com/p/about-o...-ysgol-ni.html

Ri©ardo

On 06/02/2016 13:14, Bob (not my real pseudonym) wrote:
On Fri, 05 Feb 2016 13:54:11 -0500, wrote:

On Thu, 4 Feb 2016 17:09:26 +0000, Ri©ardo
wrote:

On 04/02/2016 14:17, Joseph Testagrose wrote:

If you're wondering what it says on the side of the aircraft,
it's in Welsh. The first word is "school" and the other two are
place names, and "y" is "and".

"y" or "yr" is "the" ( and sometimes also "per" ) "a" is "and" "o"
is "of" "Tywyn" is "Port"

so the Phrase translates literally to School the Port

A funny old language is Welsh. In comparison to English, the word
order usually puts the cart before the horse. And depending upon
the preceding word, the first letter of the following word can
change, but from an early age I could say
Llanfairpwllgwyngyllgogerychwyrndrobwllllantysilio gogogoch - the
only word I know with fours Ls in a row.

I think I remember my dad trying to teach me that word. I managed
to get all the way to the first L.


It seems to be shown phonetically in this link to the train station sign:

https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=Ll...3ZI4nq07zGc%3D

Ri©ardo

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Moving Things In Still Pictures

On Sat, 6 Feb 2016 14:28:09 +0000, Ri©ardo
wrote:

On 06/02/2016 13:14, Bob (not my real pseudonym) wrote:
On Fri, 05 Feb 2016 13:54:11 -0500, wrote:

On Thu, 4 Feb 2016 17:09:26 +0000, Ri©ardo
wrote:

On 04/02/2016 14:17, Joseph Testagrose wrote:

If you're wondering what it says on the side of the aircraft,
it's in Welsh. The first word is "school" and the other two are
place names, and "y" is "and".

"y" or "yr" is "the" ( and sometimes also "per" ) "a" is "and" "o"
is "of" "Tywyn" is "Port"

so the Phrase translates literally to School the Port

A funny old language is Welsh. In comparison to English, the word
order usually puts the cart before the horse. And depending upon
the preceding word, the first letter of the following word can
change, but from an early age I could say
Llanfairpwllgwyngyllgogerychwyrndrobwllllantysilio gogogoch - the
only word I know with fours Ls in a row.

I think I remember my dad trying to teach me that word. I managed
to get all the way to the first L.


It seems to be shown phonetically in this link to the train station sign:

https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=Ll...3ZI4nq07zGc%3D

Ri©ardo

The only redeeming facor I can see in the Welsh language as far as
learners are concerned is that it is pretty well pronounced
phonetically. The main problem is that a lot of the vowels dont
correspond to their english proninciation. Here is a paragraph
purporting to show how easily English speakers can cope"

Gwd lwc. Ai hop ddat yw can ryd ddys and ddat yt meiks sens tw yw. Iff
yw can ryd ddys, dden yw ar dwing ffaen and wil haf no problems at ol
yn lyrnyng awr ffaen Welsh alffabet.

Hint: it starts "Good luck". The rest is English translitterated to
Welsh.