Pack guns in your little airplane

"Peter Duniho", who apparently can't navigate around a TFR wrote:
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Captain wubba correctly pointed out:
screaming 'That's not
fair! That's not fair! I want to be able to fly over the stadiums
again!' doesn't help our cause. It makes us look like we are more
concerned with our own toys than withe the security of the US

Pac sez:

Exactly, thank you Cap Wubba for saying this so I didn't have to.
Reading Peter's irrational moaning was giving me a migraine. All the
whining in the world about how "unfair" TFR's are will change nothing.
And No one is going to feel sorry for "you rich guys" and your
recreational flying woes.

So what will stop this GA witch hunt? I'd like like to call attention
to what the Air Line Pilot's Association is doing: arming themselves
to the teeth in federally approved programs. Instead of having
security officers everywhere, including the cockpit, like Aeroflot
used to do, they are assuming the role of deputized custodian of
FAR121 travel.

The same could be done for part 91 flight. We could all write Phil
Boyer at AOPA and Paul Jr. at EAA and suggest arming ourselves at
little airports across America. This would keep non-flying TSA drones
out of our hair while at the same time providing real protection for
the GA fleet.

I know, I know: Liberals like xxxxx, will start whining again about
how unfair it is that he should have to carry a gun... But no matter.
Either we start protecting these ramps ourselves, or after a few more
rag-head GA incidents, here comes the TSA at your airport to do it for
you:

"I'm sorry sir, this is a secure area… you'll have to leave that screw
driver with me, until you return from your aircraft."

Now just let me slip into my anti-gunner flak jacket here... O.K..

What do you guys think?


Pac "guns" plyer




Message 2 in thread
From: Rich S. )
Subject: Pack guns in your little airplane


"pac plyer" wrote
The same could be done for part 91 flight. We could all write Phil
Boyer at AOPA and Paul Jr. at EAA and suggest arming ourselves at
little airports across America. This would keep non-flying TSA drones
out of our hair while at the same time providing real protection for
the GA fleet.

Buddy of mine had to add a bit of weight to the rear of his Emeraude. He
dropped in an O-290 and didn't move the battery back. I suggested he build
in a tail compartment for a Savage O/U .22 mag/20 ga.

No sense carrying a chuck of metal that won't shoot.

Rich "You never know when you're going to go down in the wilds of Missouri"
S.


Message 3 in thread
From: Del Rawlins )
Subject: Pack guns in your little airplane

On 10 Jul 2003 03:36 PM, pac plyer posted the following:

The same could be done for part 91 flight. We could all write Phil
Boyer at AOPA and Paul Jr. at EAA and suggest arming ourselves at
little airports across America. This would keep non-flying TSA drones
out of our hair while at the same time providing real protection for
the GA fleet.

Here in Alaska the pilot in command is required to carry a firearm (
except for airlines and flights passing through Canada) for survival
purposes. Buddy of mine who is a bush pilot had a client pressuring him
to make a flight in unsafe conditions. The guy started to get nasty and
in his face until he realized my friend was wearing his .45, at which
point his politeness returned to him. Now the gun was not mentioned nor
was a move made for it, but without a doubt had it not been there the
client would have continued, possibly getting physical, and a less
strong willed pilot than my friend might have given in and made the
flight.

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Message 4 in thread
From: Wooduuuward )
Subject: Pack guns in your little airplane

This reminds me of the situation in Australia, where the police
figure now that the crooks know for sure there are no firearms
in people's homes, burglaries have risen dramatically in broad
daylight with people still in their homes. The crooks don't care
if anyone is home anymore.
You don't have to use a gun, the very thought that it might be
there can be a deterrent to criminals.
I know, I know, there's lots of good reasons to disarm regular
folks. But the fact remains, forcible house break-ins have risen
since the 'peasants' have been disarmed.

Del Rawlins wrote:
snip . . . The guy started to get nasty and
in his face until he realized my friend was wearing his .45, at which
point his politeness returned to him. Now the gun was not mentioned nor
was a move made for it, but without a doubt had it not been there the
client would have continued, possibly getting physical, /snip.

"pac plyer" wrote ...
The same could be done for part 91 flight. We could all write Phil
Boyer at AOPA and Paul Jr. at EAA and suggest arming ourselves at
little airports across America. This would keep non-flying TSA drones
out of our hair while at the same time providing real protection for
the GA fleet.

What do you guys think?

I'm already always armed at my airport... What's the difference?

pac plyer wrote in message The same could be done for part 91 flight.
We could all write Phil Boyer at AOPA and Paul Jr. at EAA and suggest
arming ourselves at
little airports across America. This would keep non-flying TSA drones
out of our hair while at the same time providing real protection for
the GA fleet.

Pilots are not neccessarily smart. There have been some that I have met who
I have had serious doubts about their common sense even without a firearm.
An unsubstantiated shooting of an innocent person by a GA pilot would have
bad repercussions for all of us.

Here's how we handle it. Add a regulation to Part 61 that requires private
pilot candidates to obtain a permit to carry a firearm. This involves a
criminal background check and fingerprinting along with a gun safety course
(which should please the public naysayers who want background checks for
pilots). These are the same requirements
for a concealed firearm permit that many right-to-carry states already have.
The difference is that the permit will be honored in all 50 states if you
have the aviation endorsement.

D.