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And just because you don't like him and find him just as
arguementative as you and the rest of the rabble, just who gives you the right to infer he is a coward.??? Bernie, he didn't "infer" anything. The correct word is "imply" and he implied nothing, he said it openly. I guess anyone can say anything online. I just wish people like him would not resort to vulgarity and personal attacks. Dan, U. S. Air Force, retired |
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Bernie the Bunion wrote: Jerry Springer wrote: Problem is Ron this is not the first BD-5 he has owned and had just about ready to fly. They all get sold at just about flight time. Pray tell us all Mr. Springer... Just whoes business is that except his.????? And just because you don't like him and find him just as arguementative as you and the rest of the rabble, just who gives you the right to infer he is a coward.??? +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ What a genuine troll and farce. An clueless anonymous coward pontificates on cowardice. Beats all, doesn't it? BTW... Jaun's deeds have spoken as loudly as his words. If it walks and talks like duck, Bernie... It's a duck. Barnyard BOb - 50 years of flight |
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"Ron Wanttaja" wrote in message news Pretty bad when he is afraid to fly it himself, all talk and no go. Well...I've had my go-arounds with Juan, but I recall him posting that he just got his medical back. I don't know the circumstances, but the issues may be making it difficult to operate a small, high-performance aircraft. And I know he wouldn't want to open it for discussion here..... Ron Wanttaja Understood. It still does not change the fact that buying the project may be less attractive, since it has not yet flown, but is nearly complete. I would walk away. YMMV. -- ---Jim in NC--- |
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Jerry
What happened to the 'other' birds he built and sold prior to flight? Do you or anyone know? Did they do OK? Are they still flying? I know it's a stretch, but he may just like to build more than fly and his building gives him entre to the groups who fly? Big John On Mon, 04 Aug 2003 04:56:10 GMT, Jerry Springer wrote: Ron Wanttaja wrote: Pretty bad when he is afraid to fly it himself, all talk and no go. Well...I've had my go-arounds with Juan, but I recall him posting that he just got his medical back. I don't know the circumstances, but the issues may be making it difficult to operate a small, high-performance aircraft. And I know he wouldn't want to open it for discussion here..... Ron Wanttaja Problem is Ron this is not the first BD-5 he has owned and had just about ready to fly. They all get sold at just about flight time. Jerry |
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(B2431) writes: I still say we should all chip in and buy juan the fuel so we can watch him make his first flight. We can sell tickets at $25 each so we can pave over the crater. Dan, U. S. Air Force, retired Dan, I can't think of anyone on this group that has less respect for Jaun than I have. Even then, I am glad that Jaun has decided to get rid of that death trap without having flown it. It is the first smart thing I have seen him do. Bob Reed www.kisbuild.r-a-reed-assoc.com (KIS Builders Site) KIS Cruiser in progress...Slow but steady progress.... "Ladies and Gentlemen, take my advice, pull down your pants and Slide on the Ice!" (M.A.S.H. Sidney Freedman) |
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In article , Bernie the Bunion
writes: Jerry with all due respect...... I appreciate that you and many others in this group do not like Juan for a variety of reasons, but you have just publicly insinuated that he is a coward. Juan is not the first person to build an airplane and try to sell it before it has made it's maiden voyage and I don't recall you or anyone else making such comments to other builders under the same circumstances. Like I've said before in this group Mr. Springer, if your going to make comments about others you should try posting from the top of the barrel. The air is much cleaner at the top than at the bottom. You can live with your own conscience Jerry, but in my humble opinion you are way out of line for that comment. Nobody in this newsgroup has the right to infer someone is a coward, least of all you. Bernie, Look back over the BS that Jaun has posted in the past and maybe you can get a better understanding of why these comments were made. Besides, Jaun did not build the BD-5J he is selling but has spent considerable time telling everyone how great and safe a plane it is. Bob Reed www.kisbuild.r-a-reed-assoc.com (KIS Builders Site) KIS Cruiser in progress...Slow but steady progress.... "Ladies and Gentlemen, take my advice, pull down your pants and Slide on the Ice!" (M.A.S.H. Sidney Freedman) |
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RobertR237 wrote:
In article , (B2431) writes: I still say we should all chip in and buy juan the fuel so we can watch him make his first flight. We can sell tickets at $25 each so we can pave over the crater. Dan, U. S. Air Force, retired Dan, I can't think of anyone on this group that has less respect for Jaun than I have. Even then, I am glad that Jaun has decided to get rid of that death trap without having flown it. It is the first smart thing I have seen him do. Bob Reed www.kisbuild.r-a-reed-assoc.com (KIS Builders Site) KIS Cruiser in progress...Slow but steady progress.... "Ladies and Gentlemen, take my advice, pull down your pants and Slide on the Ice!" (M.A.S.H. Sidney Freedman) Bob Why would you wish it on someone else to fly that death trap that Juan worked on? Seems only fair that the guy that finished it should be the one to fly it. Now if some one bought it to make a wind direction indicator out of it then I agree with you. Jerry |
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In article et, Jerry
Springer writes: Dan, I can't think of anyone on this group that has less respect for Jaun than I have. Even then, I am glad that Jaun has decided to get rid of that death trap without having flown it. It is the first smart thing I have seen him do. Bob Reed www.kisbuild.r-a-reed-assoc.com (KIS Builders Site) KIS Cruiser in progress...Slow but steady progress.... "Ladies and Gentlemen, take my advice, pull down your pants and Slide on the Ice!" (M.A.S.H. Sidney Freedman) Bob Why would you wish it on someone else to fly that death trap that Juan worked on? Seems only fair that the guy that finished it should be the one to fly it. Now if some one bought it to make a wind direction indicator out of it then I agree with you. Jerry I am really hoping that NOBODY will buy it and Jaun will be forced to use it as a wind vane. It is the best use I have seen for it. Bob Reed www.kisbuild.r-a-reed-assoc.com (KIS Builders Site) KIS Cruiser in progress...Slow but steady progress.... "Ladies and Gentlemen, take my advice, pull down your pants and Slide on the Ice!" (M.A.S.H. Sidney Freedman) |
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RobertR237 wrote:
Look back over the BS that Jaun has posted in the past and maybe you can get a better understanding of why these comments were made. Besides, Jaun did not build the BD-5J he is selling but has spent considerable time telling everyone how great and safe a plane it is. Not just that, but taunting everyone about how they'd be eating their words and bowing before him etc when he flew his great BD-5J into Oshkosh at whatever TAS it's supposed to achieve Cheers, Sydney |
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RobertR237 wrote:
Bernie, Look back over the BS that Jaun has posted in the past and maybe you can get a better understanding of why these comments were made. Besides, Jaun did not build the BD-5J he is selling but has spent considerable time telling everyone how great and safe a plane it is. Bob I really don't want to get into a ****ing match with you, juan, jerry, or anybody else in this newsgroup, and I'm very well aware of the BS that Juan has posted here just as well as the BS that other's have posted here. But...... If YOU suddenly advertised YOUR KIS project as being finished, ready for it's first flight and for sale, and I came along and asked you if you were afraid to fly it, you know very well what the response would be. Your generally held in high esteem in this group and for a variety of reasons I am not. So Bob if I infered that you were afraid to fly your plane, am I not infering that you are a coward just like your friend Jerry inferred that Juan is a coward all talk and no go..... Let's not mince words. Jerry Springer's exact words....... Pretty bad when he is afraid to fly it himself, all talk and no go. The reasons Juan has his plane for sale is his business and his business alone. He doesn't have to justify selling his own property to you or anyone else the same as you wouldn't have to justify selling your own property to me or anyone else. If Mr Springer can't understand his off the cuff comments were uncharitable in the extreme and go oooppssss sorry, then I can't help him with his manners and neither can you or anyone else. He has to stare himself in the mirror each day just like the rest of us. Nobody likes to have to publicly apologize folks, especially to someone that they generally dislike. Hey when's the last time ANYONE apologized to me for anything. Funny but I can't remember either. But in my own case there have been times in this very newsgroup when I've shot my toes off and the next day gone oooooooopssssss. And after gritting my teeth, I've apologized sincerly without trying to slide away from my responsibility. And you know Bob, I might feel a little sheepish after the fact, but I also feel good about myself for doing what was right. |
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