Instruement checkride...for real this time (long)

Congratulations Jack!
I will email you later about the Arrow tips.
Regards, Eric

john smith wrote:
Congratulations Jack!
I will email you later about the Arrow tips.
Regards, Eric
Sweet...any/all tips/tricks/hints/etc. about the Arrow gladly accepted.


--
Jack Allison
PP-ASEL-Instrument Airplane
Arrow N2104T

"When once you have tasted flight, you will forever walk the Earth
with your eyes turned skyward, for there you have been, and there
you will always long to return"
- Leonardo Da Vinci

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On Sat, 25 Feb 2006 22:27:13 -0800, Jack Allison wrote:

The short answer: I passed :-)

Well done Jack!

Now go out and bust some clouds on your own (after picking up your
clearance of course *big smile*.

You will feel like you are starting to solo all over again, 'specially when
that right seat is empty!

Allen

Jack Allison wrote:
The short answer: I passed :-)

The long version:
After last weekend's check ride was postponed with the examiner coming
down sick at the last minute, I had an extra week to fly and study. It
turned out that I was only able to fly once but had plenty of time to
hit the books.

Way to go Jack!!

Chris

On 02/25/06 22:27, Jack Allison wrote:
The short answer: I passed :-)


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Big Congratulations, Jack!

Do you mind if I ask why you decided to make your turn at 400' when
initially departing KSAC? I was told that, barring any other restrictions,
you should not begin a turn until within 300' of TPA when VFR, and above
circling mins when IFR.

And by the way, if it was just a brain fart, I'll tell you what happened
when I was asked to do a DME arc and holding during part of my IFR check-out
at the new club ;-\ ... it may make you feel better about yours.

Now, after you get a chance to relax and revel in your success, I want to
talk about staying current ;-)

--
Mark Hansen, PP-ASEL, Instrument Airplane
Cal Aggie Flying Farmers
Sacramento, CA

Mark Hansen wrote:
Do you mind if I ask why you decided to make your turn at 400' when
initially departing KSAC? I was told that, barring any other restrictions,
you should not begin a turn until within 300' of TPA when VFR, and above
circling mins when IFR.

Our clearance was: Cleared to KMHR via heading 090, radar vectors.
Climb and maintain 2000, expect 3000 5 minutes after departure...

KSAC doesn't have an obstacle DP so therefore meets the "diverse
departure" criteria (you won't hit anything if you start a climb at a
minimum of 35 ft. from the departure end of the runway, climb 200 ft/nm,
and climb to 400 ft). Lincoln, OTOH, does have an obstacle DP due to
the terrain to the East (Climbing turn to the MYV VOR then climb on
course). So...all that to say that as I was departing KSAC, I was
remembering my CFII saying you wouldn't start a turn until 400 ft. The
brain fart on my part was not realizing the noise abatement stuff for
runway 20 at KSAC. Had I waited until 600 ft., I would have been above
the circling minimums.

And by the way, if it was just a brain fart, I'll tell you what happened
when I was asked to do a DME arc and holding during part of my IFR
check-out
at the new club ;-\ ... it may make you feel better about yours.

Well, even if it doesn't make me feel better, I think that since you
offered, do tell :-)

Now, after you get a chance to relax and revel in your success, I want to
talk about staying current ;-)

Relax? What's that again? Hehe, sure, anytime you want to hookup for
currency stuff, drop me an e-mail. I figure to fly our plane a couple
more times before it goes in for some maintenance then for the annual.
I'll have more than normal safety piloting availability during the last
three weeks of March since that's when we've lined up all the work.


--
Jack Allison
PP-ASEL-Instrument Airplane
Arrow N2104T

"When once you have tasted flight, you will forever walk the Earth
with your eyes turned skyward, for there you have been, and there
you will always long to return"
- Leonardo Da Vinci

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Jack Allison wrote:
The short answer: I passed :-)

Wow...CONGRATULATIONS!

Thanks for posting your checkride story. I'm about to begin, and have
printed out your story to re-read when more of it will make sense to me!
LOL. Hope you saved a copy, too. I wrote my private checkride story
right afterwards, and it's fun to go back and read it every once in a
while. I would have forgotten some of the details if I hadn't written
them all down.

Not having done the IA rating yet, it's a little daunting to hear
*everyone*, even those that have gone all the way to ATP, say the
instrument rating was the hardest one! Doesn't ANYONE say, "It was hard,
but not as bad as I anticipated" ???

Ah, and last but not least, the updated sig. line. Cool! :-)

Yeah!! Good job!

On 02/26/06 08:16, unicate wrote:
Jack Allison wrote:
The short answer: I passed :-)

Wow...CONGRATULATIONS!

Thanks for posting your checkride story. I'm about to begin, and have
printed out your story to re-read when more of it will make sense to me!
LOL. Hope you saved a copy, too. I wrote my private checkride story
right afterwards, and it's fun to go back and read it every once in a
while. I would have forgotten some of the details if I hadn't written
them all down.

If you like reading about other peoples IFR training, here are a couple
that I've run across which provide lots of great gems of wisdom:

This is an online log of the accelerated IFR training written
by Marc J. Zeitlin:

http://www.cozybuilders.org/2005_Instrument_Training/

Here is a good accounting of Joe Campbell's IFR training experience:

http://www.campbells.org/Airplanes/Diary/toc.html

And finally:

Ed Williams Aviation Page:

http://williams.best.vwh.net/

Ed is a CFII with lots of great information on his site.


Not having done the IA rating yet, it's a little daunting to hear
*everyone*, even those that have gone all the way to ATP, say the
instrument rating was the hardest one! Doesn't ANYONE say, "It was hard,
but not as bad as I anticipated" ???

I will ;-)

Seriously, I expected it would be much worse than it was. I had a hard
time getting over the knowledge test hump, in that initially, it seemed
like an incredible amount of information that I had to somehow learn.

However, there are lots of things you can do to make this work, and
they each just take some time, so you have to be patient and be willing
to study.

Personally, I used the Gleim test prep book (along with reading the FAR/AIM,
and other books, etc.). In the end, I got an acceptable score (okay, it
was 100%, but that was really an accident ;-) )

As far as the training goes, the CFII will walk you through it. What could
be easier than that? ;-)

Also, there are a lot of folks here with lots of great advice to help
you along your way!

--
Mark Hansen, PP-ASEL, Instrument Airplane
Cal Aggie Flying Farmers
Sacramento, CA

Mark Hansen wrote:
Seriously, I expected it would be much worse than it was.

Thank you! sigh of relief

I had a hard time getting over the knowledge test
hump, in that initially, it seemed like an incredible
amount of information that I had to somehow learn.

I'm pretty good at studying, so I'm not as worried about the knowledge
test *or* the flight as I am about the oral exam. I'm simply *the worst*
at verbalizing what's in my brain. Now, if you could answer the
questions in writing, essay format ...

I got an acceptable score (okay, it
was 100%, but that was really an accident ;-)

;-) shaking head and grinning Yeah, 100% would be "acceptable". Kudos!

As far as the training goes, the CFII will walk you
through it. What could be easier than that? ;-)

The flight training is the part I look most forward to. And I *have*
heard one other person say, similar to what you just said, that in some
ways IFR training is easier because everything is choreographed *for*
you, rather than VFR flying, where you're looking at the options and
making a lot of the calculations and decisions on your own.

Also, there are a lot of folks here with lots of great
advice to help you along your way!

True. Thanks for posting the links to other instrument checkride
stories. I remember most private checkride stories putting me more at
ease before mine.

On 02/26/06 09:17, unicate wrote:
Mark Hansen wrote:
Seriously, I expected it would be much worse than it was.

Thank you! sigh of relief

I had a hard time getting over the knowledge test
hump, in that initially, it seemed like an incredible
amount of information that I had to somehow learn.

I'm pretty good at studying, so I'm not as worried about the knowledge
test *or* the flight as I am about the oral exam. I'm simply *the worst*
at verbalizing what's in my brain. Now, if you could answer the
questions in writing, essay format ...

Well, the point of the exam is not to see how well you take oral exams,
so the DE should work to determine if you know the material, and should
also allow for typical 'exam jitters'. Just take each answer slowly and
think about it. If you know the material, you'll do fine.


I got an acceptable score (okay, it
was 100%, but that was really an accident ;-)

;-) shaking head and grinning Yeah, 100% would be "acceptable". Kudos!

Well, I knew the material, but the test computer threw me nothing but the
easy ones and no hard ones. It was really strange. Just prior, I had taken
three practice tests on the FBO computer test simulator, and missed one or
two each time, so go figure ;-)


As far as the training goes, the CFII will walk you
through it. What could be easier than that? ;-)

The flight training is the part I look most forward to. And I *have*
heard one other person say, similar to what you just said, that in some
ways IFR training is easier because everything is choreographed *for*
you, rather than VFR flying, where you're looking at the options and
making a lot of the calculations and decisions on your own.

That's true. There are some things you're going to have to learn, but
they're not all that difficult (like DME arc, holding entries, etc.)


Also, there are a lot of folks here with lots of great
advice to help you along your way!

True. Thanks for posting the links to other instrument checkride
stories. I remember most private checkride stories putting me more at
ease before mine.

I think you'll have a lot of fun. Best of luck!

--
Mark Hansen, PP-ASEL, Instrument Airplane
Cal Aggie Flying Farmers
Sacramento, CA