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Winter project
Just changed the memory battery in my Cambridge model 20 GPS recorders.
No big deal, Rex who the Cambridge dealer at Williams Soaring showed me how: + Purchase new batteries #2325 from local drug store/ radio shack. + Power up your GPS in order not to lose memory and security. + Remove 2 screws that hold antenna. + Under antenna you will see the battery, hold clip up and slide old battery out. + Slip new battery in (+ up) + Replace antenna and screws. Now that wasn't all that hard, was it? I used a small screw driver to hold the retaining clip up, it would be a good idea to NOT touch the case with any tool used to remove the battery. Case is probably negative and we're working on the positive side of the battery. If you get a spark followed by a puff of smoke------------------------I have found the only way to get that little puff of smoke back inside the little black box is to send it back to the factory. Enjoy, JJ PS, My memory battery now reads 3.3 Volts, not its normal 2.8 PS #2, A day was lost at the standard nats this year because of "No Trace" |
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JJ,
Sounds easy enough. One question though - wouldn't you now have a "security invalid" message for all traces? Not that it matters for non-record/badge work, but... Erik Mann LS8-18 (P3) wrote in message ups.com... Just changed the memory battery in my Cambridge model 20 GPS recorders. No big deal, Rex who the Cambridge dealer at Williams Soaring showed me how: + Purchase new batteries #2325 from local drug store/ radio shack. + Power up your GPS in order not to lose memory and security. + Remove 2 screws that hold antenna. + Under antenna you will see the battery, hold clip up and slide old battery out. + Slip new battery in (+ up) + Replace antenna and screws. Now that wasn't all that hard, was it? I used a small screw driver to hold the retaining clip up, it would be a good idea to NOT touch the case with any tool used to remove the battery. Case is probably negative and we're working on the positive side of the battery. If you get a spark followed by a puff of smoke------------------------I have found the only way to get that little puff of smoke back inside the little black box is to send it back to the factory. Enjoy, JJ PS, My memory battery now reads 3.3 Volts, not its normal 2.8 PS #2, A day was lost at the standard nats this year because of "No Trace" |
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Papa3 wrote:
Sounds easy enough. One question though - wouldn't you now have a "security invalid" message for all traces? Not that it matters for non-record/badge work, but... No, the GPS-NAV is designed such that you can replace the battery without breaking the security seal. That is why power must be applied, the contents of the security memory are then maintained by the external power source. If no external power is connected when the battery is removed, the contents of the security memory will be lost, and the electronic seal will be broken. Marc |
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Same explanation for a 302 would be appreciated.
"Marc Ramsey" wrote in message m... Papa3 wrote: Sounds easy enough. One question though - wouldn't you now have a "security invalid" message for all traces? Not that it matters for non-record/badge work, but... No, the GPS-NAV is designed such that you can replace the battery without breaking the security seal. That is why power must be applied, the contents of the security memory are then maintained by the external power source. If no external power is connected when the battery is removed, the contents of the security memory will be lost, and the electronic seal will be broken. Marc |
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The 302 manual makes no mention of an internal battery, so I assume
there is no need to change it. I don't know how they handle trashing the security seal if the box is opened. Bob Fidler wrote: Same explanation for a 302 would be appreciated. "Marc Ramsey" wrote in message m... Papa3 wrote: Sounds easy enough. One question though - wouldn't you now have a "security invalid" message for all traces? Not that it matters for non-record/badge work, but... No, the GPS-NAV is designed such that you can replace the battery without breaking the security seal. That is why power must be applied, the contents of the security memory are then maintained by the external power source. If no external power is connected when the battery is removed, the contents of the security memory will be lost, and the electronic seal will be broken. Marc -- Change "netto" to "net" to email me directly Eric Greenwell Washington State USA |
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Eric Greenwell wrote:
The 302 manual makes no mention of an internal battery, so I assume there is no need to change it. I don't know how they handle trashing the security seal if the box is opened. There is an internal long-life lithium battery, it just doesn't need to be replaced on a routine basis. Eventually, I suspect, it will need replacement (perhaps after 10 years or so), in which case the 302 will need to be returned to Cambridge or one of its agents... Marc |
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I wasn't paying much attention to this (Back-up battery)
until I loaded a site into my model 20, took the little black box out to my sailplane, turned it on and it said, 'No turn points loaded'. What's this? I just did that? Took it back in the house, powered up the box and loaded them again. Back out to the ship and (you guessed it)------no turnpoints loaded. Ah Ha, bet that little back-up battery (the one that was 9 years old) has taken a dump. The replacement battery was stamped 'Lithium'. I have decided to change them every 5 years. JJ At 22:00 01 January 2005, Marc Ramsey wrote: Eric Greenwell wrote: The 302 manual makes no mention of an internal battery, so I assume there is no need to change it. I don't know how they handle trashing the security seal if the box is opened. There is an internal long-life lithium battery, it just doesn't need to be replaced on a routine basis. Eventually, I suspect, it will need replacement (perhaps after 10 years or so), in which case the 302 will need to be returned to Cambridge or one of its agents... Marc |
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Do you know that for sure or could it be some type of non-volatile memory?
That Dittle FSG71M has a built-in Lithium battery for it's memory which is soldered into the PC board and looks like a capacitor. Dittle recommends changing every 5-6 years. Not a job for amateurs. -- Hartley Falbaum "Marc Ramsey" wrote in message ... Eric Greenwell wrote: The 302 manual makes no mention of an internal battery, so I assume there is no need to change it. I don't know how they handle trashing the security seal if the box is opened. There is an internal long-life lithium battery, it just doesn't need to be replaced on a routine basis. Eventually, I suspect, it will need replacement (perhaps after 10 years or so), in which case the 302 will need to be returned to Cambridge or one of its agents... Marc |
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PS, My memory battery now reads 3.3 Volts, not its
normal 2.8 JJ- You got me motivated to check mine...using the Cambridge Aero program...with the Model 20 hooked up to your puter...you can right click to properties and get the backup voltage....3.9 for me, I usually leave mine hooked to house voltage when out of the ship...never saw anything saying that was bad. |
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HL Falbaum wrote:
Do you know that for sure or could it be some type of non-volatile memory? That Dittle FSG71M has a built-in Lithium battery for it's memory which is soldered into the PC board and looks like a capacitor. Dittle recommends changing every 5-6 years. Not a job for amateurs. Yes, the 302 has a lithium battery to provide backup for an internal volatile memory (I believe the flight logs are store in flash memory, however). It can't be replaced by the owner, as it requires opening the case, which will break the security seal. In a few years I'm sure we'll be hearing on r.a.s. just how long this battery lasts... Marc |
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