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Old December 22nd 05, 11:08 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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Did the pilot do something wrong? I got the page at 3AM the CAP
mission. We were told that the pilot declared (or at least implied) an
emergecy with ATC. It sounded like he way being vectored for the
approach. What was stupid?? I've flown with my wife and two kids at
night in IMC many, many times. I certainly don't consider it stupid or
dangerous. I wonder if he had engine problems.

-Robert

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Old December 23rd 05, 06:49 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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Robert M. Gary wrote:

I've flown with my wife and two kids at night in IMC many,
many times. I certainly don't consider it stupid or dangerous.
I wonder if he had engine problems.


and

...emotional civilians...think SE planes are intrinsicly [sic]
dangerous and can't believe anyone would actually fly one of those
machines at night or in the clouds. Maybe Hilton needs to stick with
riding in the back of 737s.


We "emotional civilians" aren't all civilians, nor are we unaware of the
realities of night and/or IMC conditions, whether S/E or M/E. Maybe
someone who flys his "wife and two kids at night in IMC many, many
times" would do well to "wonder [what] if he had engine problems", and
"stick with riding in the back of 737s," himself.

S/E at night in IMC _is_ dangerous. Whether or not it's also stupid
depends on your reasons for doing so, how well prepared you are, and
your doing all you can to avoid unnecessary risk. Unfortunately, wives
rarely -- and children never -- are able to measure for themselves the
risks they face and the capability of hero-Dad and his airplane, and
then make their own informed decisions. Erring on the safe side rather
than pumping up his own ego is Dad's obligation.


Good luck,

Jack
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Old December 23rd 05, 04:58 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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S/E at night in IMC _is_ dangerous

Tell that to an F-16 pilot.

Erring on the safe side rather than pumping up his own ego is Dad's obligation


Opps, I thought you were posting something serious. I didn't realize
you were just being stupid.

-Robert

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Old December 23rd 05, 05:09 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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Robert M. Gary wrote:

S/E at night in IMC _is_ dangerous



Tell that to an F-16 pilot.


Yes, but he has an ejection seat and chute!


Matt
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Old December 23rd 05, 06:11 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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Ejection seats don't necessarily guarantee safety. My father died after
ejection.

-Robert

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Old December 23rd 05, 10:27 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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Robert M. Gary wrote:
S/E at night in IMC _is_ dangerous


Tell that to an F-16 pilot.


OK, show me one.


Jack



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Old December 23rd 05, 06:26 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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S/E at night in IMC _is_ dangerous.

So is flying. Anything.

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Old December 24th 05, 01:06 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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Jose wrote:
S/E at night in IMC _is_ dangerous.



So is flying. Anything.


Some more, some less.


Jack
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Old December 23rd 05, 10:23 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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Well the article says the incident occurred at 8:20 a.m.

It always surprises me how often people take off into lousy weather
conditions. It's either bravado, lack of flight preparation or good old
optimism.

R.I.P


"Hilton" wrote in message
nk.net...
1956 172, rainy/low cloud kinda weather, hills, 9pm at night, 2 kids on
board...

http://sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cg...NGC9GC0ED8.DTL




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Old December 24th 05, 06:03 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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r. mutt wrote:
Well the article says the incident occurred at 8:20 a.m.


They found the wreckage at 8:20am. I believe the pilot made an 'emergency'
call to ATC at 9pm the previous night.

Hilton


 




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