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Old July 22nd 03, 08:24 PM
Richard Brooks
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"Emmanuel.Gustin" wrote in message
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Gooneybird wrote:

: On reflection, one never hears Frenchmen complaining about French words

and
: phrases adopted into the English language, does one. A bit of "le

standard
: a deux", n'est ce pas? (^-^)))

Well, thanks to William the Conqueror, English is a mixture
of French with the original Germanic Old English, anyway.
It is only natural for the French to make further intrusions.
While 'Franglais' is really very, very ugly.

Emmanuel


You mean like "murky buckets" ?

Besides French is a way to clear the sinus without spitting on the pavement
so is very healthy and for exercise we use the longbowman's wave.


Richard.



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Old July 26th 03, 03:18 PM
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Well, thanks to William the Conqueror, English is a mixture
of French with the original Germanic Old English.


Actually that is incorrect, the Normans were francified vikings and
what they spoke (dispite superficial resenblances) was not french.
They spoke a language linguists refer to asw "Anglo-Norman".
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Old July 19th 03, 06:03 PM
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And the French wonder why a lot of the world find them irritating!?

Myc


"bsh" wrote in message
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PARIS - Goodbye "e-mail", the French government says, and hello
"courriel" — the term that linguistically sensitive France is now using
to refer to electronic mail in official documents.

The Culture Ministry has announced a ban on the use of "e-mail" in all
government ministries, documents, publications or Web sites, the latest
step to stem an incursion of English words into the French lexicon.

The ministry's General Commission on Terminology and Neology insists
Internet surfers in France are broadly using the term "courrier
electronique" (electronic mail) instead of e-mail — a claim some
industry experts dispute. "Courriel" is a fusion of the two words.

"Evocative, with a very French sound, the word 'courriel' is broadly
used in the press and competes advantageously with the borrowed 'mail'
in English," the commission has ruled.

The move to ban "e-mail" was announced last week after the decision was
published in the official government register on June 20. Courriel is a
term that has often been used in French-speaking Quebec, the commission
said.


http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmp...ith__e_mail__1



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Old July 19th 03, 06:08 PM
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"Mycroft" a écrit dans le message de news:
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And the French wonder why a lot of the world find them irritating!?


No we don't, we don't give a rat's ass.

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Old July 21st 03, 03:17 AM
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"Pierre-Henri Baras" wrote in message
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"Mycroft" a écrit dans le message de news:
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And the French wonder why a lot of the world find them irritating!?


No we don't, we don't give a rat's ass.


Cue old joke about non natives speakers attempting French language::
"The French don't really care what you say, but you *must* pronounce it
correctly."

:^)

The CO


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Old July 21st 03, 09:25 AM
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"The CO" a écrit dans le message de news:
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"Pierre-Henri Baras" wrote in message
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"Mycroft" a écrit dans le message de news:
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And the French wonder why a lot of the world find them irritating!?


No we don't, we don't give a rat's ass.


Cue old joke about non natives speakers attempting French language::
"The French don't really care what you say, but you *must* pronounce it
correctly."


LOL. We *do* appreciate people who make an small effort to speak french,
even if it turns out real bad. 80% of the people here understand minimal
english, but you'll probably be treated better if you give a shot at it in
french.
Call it arrogance if you want, I lack the objectivity to judge it....

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Co-webmaster de French Fleet Air Arm
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Old July 21st 03, 12:10 PM
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Pardon, mais il y a des americains qui essayent parler en francais. Je voudrais
savoir ou vous avez appris la langue anglais. C'est la langue (comment se dit
le mot en francais?) "colloquial", et c'est tres bon.

George Z.


"Pierre-Henri Baras" wrote in message
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"The CO" a écrit dans le message de news:
...

"Pierre-Henri Baras" wrote in message
...

"Mycroft" a écrit dans le message de news:
...
And the French wonder why a lot of the world find them irritating!?


No we don't, we don't give a rat's ass.


Cue old joke about non natives speakers attempting French language::
"The French don't really care what you say, but you *must* pronounce it
correctly."


LOL. We *do* appreciate people who make an small effort to speak french,
even if it turns out real bad. 80% of the people here understand minimal
english, but you'll probably be treated better if you give a shot at it in
french.
Call it arrogance if you want, I lack the objectivity to judge it....

--
_________________________________________
Pierre-Henri BARAS

Co-webmaster de French Fleet Air Arm
http://www.ffaa.net
Encyclopédie de l'Aviation sur le web
http://www.aviation-fr.info




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Old July 21st 03, 06:30 PM
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LOL. We *do* appreciate people who make an small effort to speak french,
even if it turns out real bad. 80% of the people here understand minimal
english, but you'll probably be treated better if you give a shot at it in
french.
Call it arrogance if you want, I lack the objectivity to judge it....


Sounds like you are right to me. Its the same (pretty much) everywhere - folks
who don't even attempt so much as a local greeting, no matter how mangled, are
usually seen to be aloof or some other negative trait. Better to apologize for
a small embarrassment on your own part than to have the people you are visiting
start with a negative impression of you.

v/r
Gordon
====(A+C====
USN SAR Aircrew

"Got anything on your radar, SENSO?"
"Nothing but my forehead, sir."
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Old July 22nd 03, 01:37 AM
The CO
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"Pierre-Henri Baras" wrote in message
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"The CO" a écrit dans le message de news:
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"Pierre-Henri Baras" wrote in message
...

"Mycroft" a écrit dans le message de news:
...
And the French wonder why a lot of the world find them

irritating!?


No we don't, we don't give a rat's ass.


Cue old joke about non natives speakers attempting French language::
"The French don't really care what you say, but you *must* pronounce

it
correctly."


LOL. We *do* appreciate people who make an small effort to speak

french,
even if it turns out real bad. 80% of the people here understand

minimal
english, but you'll probably be treated better if you give a shot at

it in
french.


Fair enough, be a little extra patient with visiting Aussies, they don't
teach French
in schools around here these days, except perhaps some of the private
ones.

Call it arrogance if you want, I lack the objectivity to judge it....


We all have our little traits.

Se la vie.

The CO


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Old July 21st 03, 05:36 AM
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"Mycroft" wrote in message ...
And the French wonder why a lot of the world find them irritating!?

Myc


Start taking your Spanish lessons yankee gringo. La Razza is inside the gates.



"bsh" wrote in message
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PARIS - Goodbye "e-mail", the French government says, and hello
"courriel" ? the term that linguistically sensitive France is now using
to refer to electronic mail in official documents.

The Culture Ministry has announced a ban on the use of "e-mail" in all
government ministries, documents, publications or Web sites, the latest
step to stem an incursion of English words into the French lexicon.

The ministry's General Commission on Terminology and Neology insists
Internet surfers in France are broadly using the term "courrier
electronique" (electronic mail) instead of e-mail ? a claim some
industry experts dispute. "Courriel" is a fusion of the two words.

"Evocative, with a very French sound, the word 'courriel' is broadly
used in the press and competes advantageously with the borrowed 'mail'
in English," the commission has ruled.

The move to ban "e-mail" was announced last week after the decision was
published in the official government register on June 20. Courriel is a
term that has often been used in French-speaking Quebec, the commission
said.


http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmp...ith__e_mail__1

 




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