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Old March 17th 07, 02:56 AM posted to rec.aviation.homebuilt
Marc Erickson
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Is this easily done - that is, are there islands in between I can hop to? Or
do I need big tanks, long range, and a bladder in the cabin (and a pee tube)
to do it?


Marc

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Old March 17th 07, 03:39 AM posted to rec.aviation.homebuilt
COLIN LAMB
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There are islands every 100 miles between US and Hawaii. They are not on
the maps. However, they are off limits because they are breeding grounds
for the endangered Puka.

It is rumored that Amelia landed on one and may still be there.



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Old March 17th 07, 12:22 PM posted to rec.aviation.homebuilt
Blueskies
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"COLIN LAMB" wrote in message thlink.net...
: There are islands every 100 miles between US and Hawaii. They are not on
: the maps. However, they are off limits because they are breeding grounds
: for the endangered Puka.
:
: It is rumored that Amelia landed on one and may still be there.
:
:
:

That is why the Puka shell necklaces are so expensive and rare...


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Old March 18th 07, 03:25 PM posted to rec.aviation.homebuilt
Robert Bonomi
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In article [email protected],
Marc Erickson wrote:
Is this easily done - that is, are there islands in between I can hop to? Or
do I need big tanks, long range, and a bladder in the cabin (and a pee tube)
to do it?



Have you looked at a map?

Does it occur to you that just "an island" is *NOT* sufficient?
That you need 'services' -- like being able to buy fuel -- as well?

Do you think any such island would be big enough to have a post office?
Are there any such places listed in the USPS zip-code directory?
What _other_country_ might such an island be a part of?

Do you have the right kind of comm radios?
Do you have _enough_engines_? Can you 'glide' 1500+ miles after a failure?
Is your plane certified for ETOPS? Are _you_ multi-engine rated?

Do you have a co-pilot? Have you computed *how*many*hours* you'll be in
the air without a break?


are you *REALLY* that stupid?


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Old March 18th 07, 04:14 PM posted to rec.aviation.homebuilt
Mike Gaskins
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On Mar 18, 10:25 am, (Robert Bonomi)
wrote:
Have you looked at a map?

Does it occur to you that just "an island" is *NOT* sufficient?
That you need 'services' -- like being able to buy fuel -- as well?

Do you think any such island would be big enough to have a post office?
Are there any such places listed in the USPS zip-code directory?
What _other_country_ might such an island be a part of?

Do you have the right kind of comm radios?
Do you have _enough_engines_? Can you 'glide' 1500+ miles after a failure?
Is your plane certified for ETOPS? Are _you_ multi-engine rated?

Do you have a co-pilot? Have you computed *how*many*hours* you'll be in
the air without a break?

are you *REALLY* that stupid?


Not need to resort to flaming. I assumed when he mentioned "islands"
in between that he would have been naturally referring to islands with
sufficient facilities to handle his hypothetical trip.

IF it is even a hypothetical trip. He might be trying to call BS on a
friend's story, or might just be curious. Nothing about his post led
me to believe that he was straping himself in getting ready to head to
Hawaii but just checking with us one last time. Cut the man some
slack .

Mike Gaskins

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Old March 18th 07, 04:36 PM posted to rec.aviation.homebuilt
Montblack
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("COLIN LAMB" wrote)
There are islands every 100 miles between US and Hawaii. They are not on
the maps. However, they are off limits because they are breeding grounds
for the endangered Puka.

It is rumored that Amelia landed on one and may still be there.



Puka-puka...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pukapuka
"Although the island features a well maintained airstrip, flights are very
infrequent as the island is closer to Samoa than to the rest of the Cook
Islands. The five hour flight from Rarotonga operates only once every six
weeks or so."

http://www.cookislands.org.uk/pukapuka.html
"The destruction caused to Pukapuka by Cyclone Percy. These photographs
were taken by the crew of a New Zealand Air Force Orion which overflew the
island a few days after the cyclone struck."

http://www.cookislands.org.uk/pukapics.html
"Pukapuka is one of the remotest places on earth. It's closer to Samoa
than it is to the capital island, Rarotonga. It has its own language and
customs and other Cook Islanders say its main asset is beautiful girls.
The Island's name derives from the puka tree (right) which is commonplace."


Montblack :-)


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Old March 18th 07, 05:11 PM posted to rec.aviation.homebuilt
Richard Isakson
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"Mike Gaskins" wrote ...

Not need to resort to flaming. I assumed when he mentioned "islands"
in between that he would have been naturally referring to islands with
sufficient facilities to handle his hypothetical trip.

IF it is even a hypothetical trip. He might be trying to call BS on a
friend's story, or might just be curious. Nothing about his post led
me to believe that he was straping himself in getting ready to head to
Hawaii but just checking with us one last time. Cut the man some
slack .


You're wrong Mike. It was a dumb question and shows the utter failure of the
modern elementary school system.

I think all of us have gone out for a ten thousand dollar hamburger at
Amelia's at one time or another.

Rich


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Old March 18th 07, 06:01 PM posted to rec.aviation.homebuilt
Orval Fairbairn
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Default Flying from North America to Hawaii

In article . com,
"Mike Gaskins" wrote:

On Mar 18, 10:25 am, (Robert Bonomi)
wrote:
Have you looked at a map?

Does it occur to you that just "an island" is *NOT* sufficient?
That you need 'services' -- like being able to buy fuel -- as well?

Do you think any such island would be big enough to have a post office?
Are there any such places listed in the USPS zip-code directory?
What _other_country_ might such an island be a part of?

Do you have the right kind of comm radios?
Do you have _enough_engines_? Can you 'glide' 1500+ miles after a failure?
Is your plane certified for ETOPS? Are _you_ multi-engine rated?

Do you have a co-pilot? Have you computed *how*many*hours* you'll be in
the air without a break?

are you *REALLY* that stupid?


Not need to resort to flaming. I assumed when he mentioned "islands"
in between that he would have been naturally referring to islands with
sufficient facilities to handle his hypothetical trip.

IF it is even a hypothetical trip. He might be trying to call BS on a
friend's story, or might just be curious. Nothing about his post led
me to believe that he was straping himself in getting ready to head to
Hawaii but just checking with us one last time. Cut the man some
slack .

Mike Gaskins


The mainland/Hawaii leg is the longest overwater leg on the planet.
There are NO intervening islands (perhaps an aircraft carrier or two --
just try taking off if you land on one).
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Old March 18th 07, 06:29 PM posted to rec.aviation.homebuilt
jls
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"Marc Erickson" wrote in message
news:[email protected]
Is this easily done - that is, are there islands in between I can

hop to? Or
do I need big tanks, long range, and a bladder in the cabin (and a

pee tube)
to do it?


Marc


In 2003 Carol Ann Garratt flew around the world in her Mooney M20J in
honor of her father who had Lou Gehrig's disease. Her longest leg was
from California to Hilo, Hawaii, just under 20 hours and about 2300
NM. She had two extra fuel tanks inside the cockpit, one in the seat
beside her and a 55-gallon tank behind her. Total hours flown: 300,
and 36,667 nautical miles.

Leave your ma a lock of your hair.

Oh, and google "so you want to be a ferry pilot" to psyche yourself up
just before leaving.


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Old March 18th 07, 11:48 PM posted to rec.aviation.homebuilt
COLIN LAMB
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Actually, there are dozens of islands between North America and Hawaii. The
problem is that they are all within a few miles of the North American coast.
They run up and down the Coast. The one I am most familiar with is about
100 feet offshore. Down in California, some of the islands are a dozen or
two miles off shore.

If you were a really good helicopter pilot and planned well, you might be
able to follow one of the shipping lanes with a diesen powered helicopter
and bargain diesel from the ships crew - if you can find a ship spaced ever
few hundred miles.

In the Dole California-to-Hawaii air race, at least one airplane was denied
entry into the race by the FAA because the calculated fuel (using the
pilot's numbers) was only sufficient to get a bit more than half way across.
The pilot said he was expecting tail winds to make up the difference.

It does not take a lot of intelligence to bring up a map and look to see if
there are any islands on the way. That is what the marines did when they
invaded Grenada. They went to the local travel agent in St. Georges, once
they landed and got all the maps they could get their hands on.




 




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