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Hello,
Has there ever been an actual rocket or jet prototype ever developed that uses atomic Hydrogen? This is not necessairily a fuel cell, but there is a lot of talk on how this could be 5 times as powerfull as a conventional jet or rocket, & it seems fairly easy to produce, so has this actually been tried? Joel |
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Hello, Has there ever been an actual rocket or jet prototype ever developed that uses atomic Hydrogen? This is not necessairily a fuel cell, but there is a lot of talk on how this could be 5 times as powerfull as a conventional jet or rocket, & it seems fairly easy to produce, so has this actually been tried? I'm not sure what you mean by "atomic hydrogen". If you mean monatomic hydrogen (just a single proton and electron unbound to anything else), such a thing cannot exist at temperatures short of a nuclear explosion of the inside of a star. It would instantly recombine to form H2. If you mean H2, then yes, it's done all the time for rockets. H2 is what fuels the Space Shuttle main engines and fills most of the external tank (along with Oxygen, O2). Both of these are kept liquid a cryogenic temperatures. H2 stored as a compressed gas has been played around with as a fuel for vehicles of various kinds for decades. So far, it has proved impractical for a variety of reasons. |
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H1 can be produced by a relatively simple device from H2, & when it
recombines to form molecular Hydrogen (H2) it releases a tremendous level of energy. NASA almost used this when they were planning the shuttle in the 70's but have always used the excuse that it would be too dificult to store. Since then there has been much improvements in the storage of H1. This has to have been demonstrated somewhere. |
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wrote: Hello, Has there ever been an actual rocket or jet prototype ever developed that uses atomic Hydrogen? This is not necessairily a fuel cell, but there is a lot of talk on how this could be 5 times as powerfull as a conventional jet or rocket, & it seems fairly easy to produce, so has this actually been tried? I'm not sure what you mean by "atomic hydrogen". If you mean monatomic hydrogen (just a single proton and electron unbound to anything else), such a thing cannot exist at temperatures short of a nuclear explosion of the inside of a star. It would instantly recombine to form H2. If you mean H2, then yes, it's done all the time for rockets. H2 is what fuels the Space Shuttle main engines and fills most of the external tank (along with Oxygen, O2). Both of these are kept liquid a cryogenic temperatures. H2 stored as a compressed gas has been played around with as a fuel for vehicles of various kinds for decades. So far, it has proved impractical for a variety of reasons. You should look into what they are doing in Iceland. Their target is to have only hydrogen-powered vehicles on a fairly short timescale. They already have many hydrogen filling stations around the country. I believe they have solved many of the practical problems so it's time to learn from them! |
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Stubby wrote: You should look into what they are doing in Iceland. Their target is to have only hydrogen-powered vehicles on a fairly short timescale. They already have many hydrogen filling stations around the country. I believe they have solved many of the practical problems so it's time to learn from them! Iceland is a very special case. Things that make economic sense in Iceland may not make any sense anywhere else. Iceland has abundant geothermal energy as a natural resource, unlike any place else on the planet. From geothermal energy, they can make cheap electricity, which they can use to hydrolize water into H2 and O2. The other side of the economic equation is that Iceland has no domestic petroleum resources. Every drop of gasoline must be imported. Cheap electricity and no domestic petroleum is exactly the economic environment which would make H2 powered cars start to make sense. Such an economic environment exists in very few places in the world. |
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Roy Smith wrote: In article , Stubby wrote: You should look into what they are doing in Iceland. Their target is to have only hydrogen-powered vehicles on a fairly short timescale. They already have many hydrogen filling stations around the country. I believe they have solved many of the practical problems so it's time to learn from them! Iceland is a very special case. Things that make economic sense in Iceland may not make any sense anywhere else. No, there is nothing in Iceland that is fundamentally different from anyplace else. Iceland has abundant geothermal energy as a natural resource, unlike any place else on the planet. From geothermal energy, they can make cheap electricity, which they can use to hydrolize water into H2 and O2. New Zealand, Japan, USA and Russia are among many countries that have geo-thermal resources that far exceed those of Iceland. The other side of the economic equation is that Iceland has no domestic petroleum resources. Every drop of gasoline must be imported. That applies to most countries in the world, Iceland is the rule rather than the exception. Cheap electricity and no domestic petroleum is exactly the economic environment which would make H2 powered cars start to make sense. Such an economic environment exists in very few places in the world. It may not apply to the USA but it applies to many countries other than Iceland. |
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