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zatatime wrote: In NJ you can't land anywhere except and approved landing facility, which puts the kabosh on your plan for this state. However in PA and NY you can land anywhere you want with prior permission from the owner. I used to know a helicopter pilot who flew Santa in and out of a small field in town, and someone else who'd take their 180 up to NY and land on his buddies farm. Around here we spend more time in the dirt than on pavement. Are you saying that in NJ if I own some acerage I can't use it to land on without the state giving me some kind of approval? |
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"zatatime" wrote in message
... In NJ you can't land anywhere except and approved landing facility,. . . Define "approved", sil vous plait. Rich S. |
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"Rich S." wrote in message ... "zatatime" wrote in message ... In NJ you can't land anywhere except and approved landing facility,. . . Define "approved", sil vous plait. Rich S. NJ Statues 6:1-2. Definitions As used in this chapter: " Aircraft " means any contrivance invented, used or designed for navigation or flight in the air except a parachute or other contrivance designed for such navigation but used primarily as safety equipment. "Airman" means any person who engages in the navigation or direction of aircraft while under way. "Airport" means any locality, either of land or water, which is used for the landing or taking off of aircraft and which meets the requirements for a rating by the United States department of commerce. "Commission" means the state aviation commission. "Director" means the state director of aviation. "Landing field" means any locality, either of land or water, which is used for the landing or taking off of aircraft and which does not meet the requirements for a rating by the United States department of commerce. 6:1-15. Licensing of airports and landing fields No owner or operator of any airport or landing field shall permit the owner or pilot of any aircraft to use such airport or landing field for landing or taking off while engaged in carrying passengers for hire or reward or instructing students for hire or reward, unless such owner or operator of the airport or landing field has been granted a license or temporary letter of authority from the commission for such operation. No owner or pilot of aircraft shall carry any passengers for hire or reward from any airport or landing field in this state, unless such airport or landing field has been granted a license or temporary letter of authority from the commission for the type of operation to be engaged in. 6:1-43. Use of emergency facility or facility operated exclusively by and for government; license for aeronautical activity; fixed base operation It shall be unlawful, except as provided for by the provisions of this chapter and the rules, regulations and orders adopted pursuant to this chapter, to operate, use, or cause to be operated or used any avigation facility intended to accommodate the operation, take-off, or landing of aircraft , except in the case of emergency or at avigation facilities owned and operated exclusively by and for the Government of the United States. No aircraft or airman shall utilize, land, or take off from any area of land or water, unless that area is licensed for such activity, or found and declared by the commissioner to be vital or necessary for avigation purposes. It shall be further unlawful to operate or allow to be operated without proper license any aeronautical activity-fixed base operation that is required to be licensed by the provisions of this chapter or the rules, regulations and orders issued pursuant to this chapter in the interests of the public health, safety and welfare. 6:1-44. Licenses; aviation facilities and temporary landing areas The commissioner shall provide for the licensing of airports, landing strips, or other avigation facilities and temporary landing areas by rules, regulations and orders adequate to protect the public health and safety and the safety of those participating in aeronautical activities; provided, however, that the continued use and operation of airports, landing strips, and other avigation facilities, in use and operation on the effective date of this chapter, for which an application for a license shall have been filed within the time fixed by the commissioner, shall be permitted, pending the granting or rejection of such applications; and provided further, that the application for a license for any airport, landing strip, or other avigation facility in use and operation on the effective date of this chapter shall be granted, unless the commissioner shall find that such airports, landing strips, or other avigation facilities are not constructed, equipped and operated in accordance with the standards and requirements fixed by the rules, regulations and orders of the commissioner. Whenever the commissioner or the Director of Aeronautics shall reject any application for license under the provisions of this section, he shall state in writing the reasons for such rejection. The commissioner may further determine it necessary and provide for the licensing of specific aeronautical activities, fixed base operations, or persons engaged in specific types of aeronautical activities, or operations by rules, regulations and orders adequate to protect the public health, safety and welfare and the safety of those participating in aeronautics. |
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On Tue, 7 Dec 2004 13:32:57 -0600, "Gig Giacona"
wrote: 6:1-43 No aircraft or airman shall utilize, land, or take off from any area of land or water, unless that area is licensed for such activity, or found and declared by the commissioner to be vital or necessary for avigation purposes. Thanks. z |
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So all this bitching going on the last few years over GA losing its
rights out East and all along this was on the books? Cry me a river. zatatime wrote: On Tue, 7 Dec 2004 13:32:57 -0600, "Gig Giacona" wrote: 6:1-43 No aircraft or airman shall utilize, land, or take off from any area of land or water, unless that area is licensed for such activity, or found and declared by the commissioner to be vital or necessary for avigation purposes. Thanks. z |
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zatatime wrote: On Tue, 7 Dec 2004 13:32:57 -0600, "Gig Giacona" wrote: 6:1-43 No aircraft or airman shall utilize, land, or take off from any area of land or water, unless that area is licensed for such activity, or found and declared by the commissioner to be vital or necessary for avigation purposes. You've cut out the part that says this applies only to fields "operated exclusively by and for government". George Patterson The desire for safety stands against every great and noble enterprise. |
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Gig Giacona wrote: "Rich S." wrote in message ... "zatatime" wrote in message ... In NJ you can't land anywhere except and approved landing facility,. . . Define "approved", sil vous plait. Rich S. NJ Statues ["No, no, no, no, and no" snipped] How depressing. Nice that they define aircraft and airman, but not avigation. How are local anti-aviation laws enforced against out-of-state pilots? (Besides calling out the Air Force....) Does the FAA honor states' requests to punish errant pilots? It seems like it would be very easy for a non-local pilot to be unaware of local law, and of course residents are not generally going to know about state aviation law either. |
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Gig Giacona wrote:
"Rich S." wrote in message ... "zatatime" wrote in message ... In NJ you can't land anywhere except and approved landing facility,. . . Define "approved", sil vous plait. Rich S. NJ Statues ["No, no, no, no, and no" snipped] How depressing. Nice that they define aircraft and airman, but not avigation. How are local anti-aviation laws enforced against out-of-state pilots? (Besides calling out the Air Force....) Does the FAA honor states' requests to punish errant pilots? It seems like it would be very easy for a non-local pilot to be unaware of local law, and of course residents are not generally going to know about state aviation law either. |
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A 'proper license' should not be too hard to come by. How do you get one?
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On Wed, 08 Dec 2004 00:19:40 GMT, "Blueskies"
wrote: A 'proper license' should not be too hard to come by. How do you get one? Again, I do not have the specific documentation, but in a nutshell, if it's for private use, you need to adhere to all the State DOT regs pertaining to Private Use Airports. If it's for public use, you need to comply with those requirements, i.e. Airport Safety Zone, 7 to 1 glide ratio to a certain distance away from the runway, lighting as applicable, etc... I know someone who did this for a heliport in Northern NJ, it took quite a while, and cost a bunch of money. HTH. z |
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