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Allen- In VT-10 the T-2 was the All Weather Radial Interceptor! BRBR
'Mississippi Mig' when at Meridian. P. C. Chisholm CDR, USN(ret.) Old Phart Phormer Phantom, Turkey, Viper, Scooter and Combat Buckeye Phlyer |
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Jake- With them
all being retired, I would love to get a hold of one for the airshow circuit. BRBR No kidding. I think one, w/o wing tanks, some canopy mods, lose the POS electircal system, would make a great air racer. P. C. Chisholm CDR, USN(ret.) Old Phart Phormer Phantom, Turkey, Viper, Scooter and Combat Buckeye Phlyer |
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Pechs1 wrote:
Jake- With them all being retired, I would love to get a hold of one for the airshow circuit. BRBR No kidding. I think one, w/o wing tanks, some canopy mods, lose the POS electircal system, would make a great air racer. There's at least one civvy-owned Thunder Guppy flying, as I recall from an article in the EAA's Sport Aviation. Owned by a doctor. |
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"Ed Rasimus" wrote...
Once slow, it would be a question of who could keep flying. It would definitely be a low-speed fight and except for first moves, largely horizontal. Stall speed of the Tweet, about 72 knots. The wiley Tweet driver should probably pull the spoiler circuit breaker (those little panels on the top of the engine intakes that disrupt airflow over the tail to give stall warning buffet)--that would let you milk another four or five knots slower. Then, judicious use of flaps to get a bit more turn rate at yet lower speed..... It's been a while since I flew the Buckeye (and never flew the Tweet), but IIRC the light-weight stall speed was around 80 knots with flaps down. One problem would be that the T-2 had a 3-position flap lever (Up, 1/2, Full), so "milking" the flaps down (a great slow-speed tactic in the A-4) would not be possible. OTOH, the Buckeye's relative excess power would likely allow it to use the vertical at near-Tweet speeds, allowing it to keep up (or back) with the Tweet. OTOOH, if the T-2 had its guns installed, it would trade weight and maneuverability for actual weapons! :-) As you say, it would be an interesting fight! Now, if we went with AT-37 with those non-afterburning J85s to replace the J-69s, then it's no question the Tweet goes vertical and has the Buckeye for lunch. Yeah... same engines as the T-2C; much smaller airframe! |
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On Fri, 9 Jan 2004 19:28:54 -0600, "Jake Donovan"
wrote: I was in and out of Edwards so fast that I never got time to give you a ring. I figured as much. You should have been coming down here to Palm Desert, though. It was so cold in Lancaster at Christmas that we came back a day early just to warm up. Not that there's much action here except for the Blues at El Centro, though. We're under the departure path for Bermuda Dunes and there's a bugsmasher droning overhear right now. We've got the windows open, it's so nice. I think it's going to be in the low 80s, with a very slight breeze. Perfectly clear and good flying weather, I suppose. When I hear them overhead in the summer I start thinking about density altitude. Those 118-degF days kind of lift the airport up from sea level. I almost misread your comment bout A37's. I am either getting lazy eye or just old. I thought it said T-37s. Yikes! We had a T-37 at Dryden (I wrote my first paper about it, in fact) and I thought for years that so did AFFTC. It must have taken me two or three years to discover that their pretty white A-37s weren't Tweety Birds. Our Tweet was spun in, in about 1983, I think. I saw the crash site photos and the wreckage was just classic, really characteristic of an airplane that came down flat, in planform. Did you run into Gallager at TPS? He use to get a real hard time from students when they found out who his bother was. I've met him and we've chatted a few times. His brother joined him at the Friday luncheon one year and all the rest of us got to listen to everyone in the area laughing continuously. His brother didn't bring a watermelon or anything, though. Going to SETP can be kind of discouraging when I see all these pilots and FTEs that I met as captains or lieutenants when they were students at the TPSs wearing eagles and stars. Then a couple years later and they're all with contractors or airlines, it seems. Time keeps marching on, I guess. Mary -- Mary Shafer Retired aerospace research engineer |
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John R Weiss wrote:
"Ed Rasimus" wrote... As you say, it would be an interesting fight! And when you were done, having waxed the tweet all day, you could stand next to it and urinate into it's cockpit. Could you imagine an A-4 and a Tweet parked next to each other? They'd have different altimeter settings. |
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An old thread but...
....many years ago, 'twas a manhood issue between Navy and Air Force PUIs at happy hours all over the southwest. Your IP may have been having your ass over the IC but you were "somebody" next to the Tweet at the hold-short -- particularly if you were in a TA-4. "nafod40" wrote in message ... John R Weiss wrote: "Ed Rasimus" wrote... As you say, it would be an interesting fight! And when you were done, having waxed the tweet all day, you could stand next to it and urinate into it's cockpit. Could you imagine an A-4 and a Tweet parked next to each other? They'd have different altimeter settings. |
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