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Old August 24th 05, 06:39 PM
jls
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"mhorowit" wrote in message
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Urban myth. There is no FAR which sez anything like 'a competent person
at the controls'. There are other sources, and itis a good idea, but
no 'rule'. Believe me, when I was preparing for my visit with the FSDO
I did the research. IMHO the absolutely best thing to do (which I did
not) is to TIE IT DOWN!!!! which I will never forget again, believe me
. FYI, the Examiner and I believe the cause of the memory lapse was
that coming off an emotional experience (a very successful XC, about
which I was very excited), I let my attention wander. - Mike


Uh, Michael, it is both written and spoken within the radius of our FSDO
here and others. I didn't say it was an FAR. Of course the general rule
about keeping an aircraft under control is more general, but hand-propping
outside of FSDO guidelines is considered the basis for violation, especially
if a catastrophe occurs.

That said, I am glad to know no such rule exists in the jurisdiction or
vicinity of your airport.


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Old August 24th 05, 06:42 PM
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"mhorowit" wrote in message
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It would be a bit difficult proping a seaplane from the front, so I
guess it's not a bad idea to stand behind the prop on the float;
however, for a land plane, (unless you do something bizarre like I did)


Like whut? Curious minds want to know.



proping from the front is safe (if you are taught how to be out of the
way when the engine catches). - Mike


I'll prop from the front if propping from behind is inconvenient, and the
aircraft has a suitable person at the controls, or is tied down.


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Old August 25th 05, 01:46 PM
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Whoa! Am I understanding this correctly? Are you saying your local
FSDO office is making their own rules? I thought their job was to
enforce national rules directly from the FAA. How does that work??? If
I'm a transient pilot from my FSDO area to your FSDO area, how I am
supposed to know your FSDO rules? I must be reading something into what
you are writing that you really don't mean.

Now, of course, I realize there is a "catch all" in the FARs. Goes
something like operating in a safe manner. A FSDO office could
interpret that to mean by not tying down before propping is operating in
a dangerous or careless manner.

Scott


jls wrote:



Uh, Michael, it is both written and spoken within the radius of our FSDO
here and others. I didn't say it was an FAR. Of course the general rule
about keeping an aircraft under control is more general, but hand-propping
outside of FSDO guidelines is considered the basis for violation, especially
if a catastrophe occurs.

That said, I am glad to know no such rule exists in the jurisdiction or
vicinity of your airport.


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Old August 25th 05, 01:52 PM
Scott
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I PERSONALLY have never felt I would be comfortable propping a landplane
from the rear. To much stuff in the way...wing struts, landing gear,
etc. I don't think I would be comfortable turning my back on a spinning
prop while only one or two feet away...I want to see that spinning club
so I know exactly how far away it is. I'd hate to trip over a tire and
fall forward or throw out an arm to help regain my balance...

Scott


jls wrote:

"mhorowit" wrote in message
oups.com...

It would be a bit difficult proping a seaplane from the front, so I
guess it's not a bad idea to stand behind the prop on the float;
however, for a land plane, (unless you do something bizarre like I did)



Like whut? Curious minds want to know.




proping from the front is safe (if you are taught how to be out of the
way when the engine catches). - Mike



I'll prop from the front if propping from behind is inconvenient, and the
aircraft has a suitable person at the controls, or is tied down.


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Old August 25th 05, 07:40 PM
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Silly you, Scott! All FSDO's are fiefdoms! Just like US Customs
districts. The rules between any two are never the same. And they change
them anytime they want, just because!

Scott wrote:
Whoa! Am I understanding this correctly? Are you saying your local
FSDO office is making their own rules? I thought their job was to
enforce national rules directly from the FAA. How does that work??? If
I'm a transient pilot from my FSDO area to your FSDO area, how I am
supposed to know your FSDO rules? I must be reading something into what
you are writing that you really don't mean.
Now, of course, I realize there is a "catch all" in the FARs. Goes
something like operating in a safe manner. A FSDO office could
interpret that to mean by not tying down before propping is operating in
a dangerous or careless manner.

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Old August 25th 05, 10:37 PM
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"Scott" wrote

I'd hate to trip over a tire and
fall forward or throw out an arm to help regain my balance...


What arm? g
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Jim in NC
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Old August 25th 05, 10:39 PM
Scott
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My "good" arm! Advice along the lines of my work, "Don't look into
the end of a fiber-optic line with your last good eye."

Scott



Morgans wrote:

"Scott" wrote


I'd hate to trip over a tire and
fall forward or throw out an arm to help regain my balance...



What arm? g

 




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