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On Wed, 20 Dec 2006 06:28:01 +1100, "Conscious Pilate"
wrote: The Kalitta Air jet took off from O'Hare International Airport in Chicago late Wednesday. It later reported mechanical problems in one of Its engines, a Federal Aviation Administration spokeswoman in Chicago said. The Boeing 747 was able to fly, but was diverted as a safety precaution to Detroit, where it landed without incident, FAA officials said. No one was injured. After the landing, airline personnel discovered the engine was completely gone, FAA officials said. Michigan authorities searched Thursday for the engine, which may have fallen into Lake Michigan, the FAA said. The FAA will Investigate the incident, but the results of an investigation could take weeks. Looking at picture 20159, you will notice that #2 engine is off it's axis - pointing inboard. Makes me think this is a possible mid-air as I cannot conjure a scenario where the outboard (and more aft) engine could do this. Especially considering that the photo (28297) of #1 pylon indicates an up, outboard and aft rotation of the separated engine. J. W. Alger |
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John wrote in
: On Wed, 20 Dec 2006 06:28:01 +1100, "Conscious Pilate" wrote: The Kalitta Air jet took off from O'Hare International Airport in Chicago late Wednesday. It later reported mechanical problems in one of Its engines, a Federal Aviation Administration spokeswoman in Chicago said. The Boeing 747 was able to fly, but was diverted as a safety precaution to Detroit, where it landed without incident, FAA officials said. No one was injured. After the landing, airline personnel discovered the engine was completely gone, FAA officials said. Michigan authorities searched Thursday for the engine, which may have fallen into Lake Michigan, the FAA said. The FAA will Investigate the incident, but the results of an investigation could take weeks. Looking at picture 20159, you will notice that #2 engine is off it's axis - pointing inboard. Makes me think this is a possible mid-air as I cannot conjure a scenario where the outboard (and more aft) engine could do this. Especially considering that the photo (28297) of #1 pylon indicates an up, outboard and aft rotation of the separated engine. J. W. Alger I know what happened to that engine, I've seen that old Twilight Zone episode with William Shatner.... |
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John wrote in
: On Wed, 20 Dec 2006 06:28:01 +1100, "Conscious Pilate" wrote: The Kalitta Air jet took off from O'Hare International Airport in Chicago late Wednesday. It later reported mechanical problems in one of Its engines, a Federal Aviation Administration spokeswoman in Chicago said. The Boeing 747 was able to fly, but was diverted as a safety precaution to Detroit, where it landed without incident, FAA officials said. No one was injured. After the landing, airline personnel discovered the engine was completely gone, FAA officials said. Michigan authorities searched Thursday for the engine, which may have fallen into Lake Michigan, the FAA said. The FAA will Investigate the incident, but the results of an investigation could take weeks. Looking at picture 20159, you will notice that #2 engine is off it's axis - pointing inboard. Makes me think this is a possible mid-air as I cannot conjure a scenario where the outboard (and more aft) engine could do this. Especially considering that the photo (28297) of #1 pylon indicates an up, outboard and aft rotation of the separated engine. J. W. Alger I know what happened to that engine, I've seen that old Twilight Zone episode with William Shatner.... |
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On Wed, 20 Dec 2006 06:08:16 GMT, Toolpusher wrote:
I know what happened to that engine, I've seen that old Twilight Zone episode with William Shatner.... ... or John Lithgow even :-) |
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On Wed, 20 Dec 2006 06:08:16 GMT, Toolpusher wrote:
I know what happened to that engine, I've seen that old Twilight Zone episode with William Shatner.... ... or John Lithgow even :-) |
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"Conscious Pilate" wrote in message
... After the landing, airline personnel discovered the engine was completely gone, FAA officials said. Michigan authorities searched Thursday for the engine, which may have fallen into Lake Michigan, the FAA said. The FAA will Investigate the incident, but the results of an investigation could take weeks. Now we know why four engines are better than two. Bet that's coming out of someone's pay packet. -- Alan Erskine |
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"Conscious Pilate" wrote in message
... After the landing, airline personnel discovered the engine was completely gone, FAA officials said. Michigan authorities searched Thursday for the engine, which may have fallen into Lake Michigan, the FAA said. The FAA will Investigate the incident, but the results of an investigation could take weeks. Now we know why four engines are better than two. Bet that's coming out of someone's pay packet. -- Alan Erskine |
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Toolpusher wrote: I know what happened to that engine, I've seen that old Twilight Zone episode with William Shatner.... |
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Toolpusher wrote: I know what happened to that engine, I've seen that old Twilight Zone episode with William Shatner.... |
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"Conscious Pilate" wrote in
: The Kalitta Air jet took off from O'Hare International Airport in Chicago late Wednesday. It later reported mechanical problems in one of Its engines, a Federal Aviation Administration spokeswoman in Chicago said. The Boeing 747 was able to fly, but was diverted as a safety precaution to Detroit, where it landed without incident, FAA officials said. No one was injured. After the landing, airline personnel discovered the engine was completely gone, FAA officials said. Michigan authorities searched Thursday for the engine, which may have fallen into Lake Michigan, the FAA said. The FAA will Investigate the incident, but the results of an investigation could take weeks. NTSB Identification: CHI05MA011 Nonscheduled 14 CFR Part 121: Air Carrier operation of Kalitta Air, LLC Accident occurred Wednesday, October 20, 2004 in Aircraft: Boeing 747-132, registration: N709CK Injuries: 5 Uninjured. This is preliminary information, subject to change, and may contain errors. Any errors in this report will be corrected when the final report has been completed. On October 20, 2004, about 2029 central daylight time, a Boeing 747-132, N709CK, operated by Kalitta Air, LLC, as flight 825, received substantial damage following a separation and loss of the number one engine while climbing through about 16,000 feet mean sea level over Lake Michigan. The 14 CFR Part 121 non-scheduled international cargo flight was operating on an instrument rules flight plan. Night visual meteorological conditions were reported at the time of the accident. The two pilots, one flight engineer, and two flight mechanics were uninjured. The flight departed from Chicago O'Hare International Airport, Chicago, Illinois, at 2010, and was en route to John F. Kennedy International Airport, New York, New York, when it diverted to Detroit Metropolitan Wayne County Airport (DTW), Detroit, Michigan, where it landed without further incident. The flight crew did not report any abnormal conditions prior to the engine separation. Following the engine separation, the flight crew diverted to DTW where a landing was accomplished with normal operation of the leading edge devices and trailing edge flaps. On-scene inspection of the airplane revealed engine separation at the forward engine mount bulkhead and at the aft engine mount. The aft engine mount was intact with a section of the engine turbine exhaust case still attached. The pylon remained attached to the wing, and the pylon alignment marks were in alignment. The area around the forward engine mount bulkhead was deformed in the outboard and upward direction. Radar data estimates indicate that the engine is in an area of Lake Michigan that is approximately 240 feet deep. http://www.ntsb.gov/ntsb/brief.asp?e...28X01714&key=1 |
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