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question on VOR intersections
Skywise wrote:
Anyone know what I'm looking for? I believe the "National Flight Data Center" (NFDC) is THE source that the sites mentioned by other posters get their data from (I believe even FAA's Aeronav gets their raw data from NFDC): https://nfdc.faa.gov/portal/index.jsp Click on "FAA Airspace Fix Lookup" which takes you he https://nfdc.faa.gov/nfdcApps/airportLookup/fixes.jsp Enter the fix name (or select a state to get a list of all the fixes in that state.) They should give you the exact latitude/longitude, DME distances and VOR radials of the fix. Notice they also have other databases, too, like a "Terrain and Obstacles Database": https://nfdc.faa.gov/tod/public/index.html https://nfdc.faa.gov/tod/public/TOD_DOF.html |
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question on VOR intersections
I wrote:
Click on "FAA Airspace Fix Lookup" which takes you he https://nfdc.faa.gov/nfdcApps/airportLookup/fixes.jsp Here's a copy-and-paste of the info for a fix in Oregon called VAUGN which is a few dozen miles from my house: Details for Fix: VAUGN Latitude: 43-57-15.22 N Longitude: 123-26-57.26 W Country: UNITED STATES State: OREGON ARTCC: ZSE Fix Type: RP NAV-FAC-AZIMUTH/DSTC: RBG*VOR/DME*334.81 NAV-FAC-AZIMUTH/DSTC: EUG*VORTAC*204.50/14.00 Updated: 02/16/2006 So the VAUGN fix is 14.00 miles SW of the Eugene Oregon (EUG) VORTAC on radial 204.5 and NW of the Roseburg Oregon (RBG) VOR/DME on radial 334.81. Note that only one distance is needed. Or you can plug in the lat/long values into your simulated GPS. |
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question on VOR intersections
Jim Logajan wrote in news:Xns9FC1C90729228JamesLLugojcom@
216.168.3.30: https://nfdc.faa.gov/portal/index.jsp Click on "FAA Airspace Fix Lookup" which takes you he https://nfdc.faa.gov/nfdcApps/airportLookup/fixes.jsp https://nfdc.faa.gov/tod/public/index.html https://nfdc.faa.gov/tod/public/TOD_DOF.html Thank you, Jim. I'll bookmark these for future use. So far, the enroute charts have let me do what I wanted. In fact, it's becoming very apparent why I've seen some folks push to get an IFR rating. Doing so seems to make navigating complex airspace such as around LA a lot easier. When you stick to the 'roads in the sky' and let ATC help you keep separations, it seems to really enhance the safety and efficiency of getting from point A to point B. Brian -- http://www.skywise711.com - Lasers, Seismology, Astronomy, Skepticism Sed quis custodiet ipsos Custodes? |
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question on VOR intersections
Skywise writes:
Anyway, what I'm wondering is, is there a resource somewhere that lists intersections and gives the VOR's and radials that make them? Standard aeronautical charts. Visit http://www.skyvector.com to examine charts online. On charts, intersections that can be located using VORs will have little arrows that point to the VOR stations that define them. Say I'm navigating between intersections. I can use the GPS to fly direct to these positions. However, it seems to me that, since intersections are exactly that, an intersection of radials from two or more VOR's, using this information makes a good backup in case the GPS goes south. Redundancy, redundancy, and more redundancy. Quite so. And with a chart you can use VORs to navigate to most intersections. But looking at the sectional charts, it's not always readily apparent what the exact radials are. Sure, I could break out the straight edge and get a rough idea. But I would think that since their positions are officially defined by someone (FAA?) there would be a precise definition somewhere. The radials are always identified somewhere on the chart, typically near the VOR station itself. Follow the arrows backwards from the intersection to the reference VORs, and the radials will be marked there. Is that what you mean? |
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question on VOR intersections
Skywise writes:
That's the problem with not having 'real' lessons or experience, so I don't know how it's done in real life. You can fly directly from waypoint to waypoint using only VORs, as long as the waypoints are defined with reference to VORs. It's more tedious with VORs, but it's certainly possible and practical. I generally am, but what I've found is I need to intercept the airway after takeoff, and there's usually a waypoint nearby, or in a recent case, the airway changes direction at a waypoint. If you use SkyVector, you can plot a route that will provide you with headings, radials, etc., that you can follow. Well, since it is only a sim, expiring charts aren't much of an issue as the sim will not change. And I have twin 1080p's. I have downloaded sectionals from the FAA and throw them on the other monitor. It's no big deal to scroll and zoom a bit. I've got good graphics editing software. SkyVector is more practical, in my experience. |
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question on VOR intersections
Edward A. Falk writes:
For flight simulator programs, there won't be an ATC to give you a flight plan, so you just wing it. If you join VATSIM or IVAO, you can get live ATC for the sim. |
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question on VOR intersections
Skywise writes:
Actually, the flight sims do have ATC. X-Plane allows me to file flight plans using anything but SIDs and STARs. That's nothing compared to VATSIM. Use VATSIM, and you'll have procedures that are the same as real life, including SIDs and STARs (and voice communication). BTW, X-Plane is less 'game' and more simulator. It's written by pilots and aeronautical engineers. The program can be used to make FAA certified simulators. That's true for Flight Simulator as well. |
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question on VOR intersections
On Sat, 31 Dec 2011 13:40:56 +0100, Mxsmanic wrote:
That's *PLONK* |
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question on VOR intersections
VOR DME wrote in :
On Sat, 31 Dec 2011 13:40:56 +0100, Mxsmanic wrote: That's *PLONK* I used to peruse this forum years ago. That handle does sound familiar, and not in a good way, IIRC. Brian -- http://www.skywise711.com - Lasers, Seismology, Astronomy, Skepticism Sed quis custodiet ipsos Custodes? |
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