I wonder if Chris Thomas is a real pilot? Anybody know?

"Thomas Cuny" wrote in message
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Badwater Bill wrote:



You got a laugh out of me on this one. How true. The problem with
both the Bush baby and Kerry is that they are both pathological
liars. I think Michael Moore is an illiterate, but his fictional
movies about "I hate America" do cause people to enter into dialog
and dicuss
important issues. One thing Moore is convinced of is that Bush is
truely a pathological liar. I might have to agree with that,
however, my problem is...that Kerry is too!

I don't think either of these candidates would know the truth if it
bit them in the ass.

Is this the best that my country can offer me as a voter to choose
from? I find it sickening.

Bill Phillips

We live in a democracy.
We want a pathological liar to be president.
Why else would two pathological liars be running for president?
If the American people wanted an honest person to be president,
they would vote for Nader.

You are kidding, right? Tell me you are kidding. Nader is one of the most
dishonest people alive.

Personally, I don't think it is so much a choice between pathological liars
as it is between, um, Darth Vader and Gollum.

Vader: "Bring me the prisoners! I want them alive!"

Gollum (tracing heart shaped medallion on his hand): "Soooo beautiful. Soooo
preciousss."

Vader: "I find your lack of support for the war disturbing."

Gollum: "We hates Bushes, Preciousss. They are tricksy. They lied to usss.
We musst defeat them, and then we be the masster!"

"Richard Riley" wrote in message
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On Fri, 27 Aug 2004 23:19:06 -0700, "C J Campbell"
wrote:

:Personally, I don't think it is so much a choice between pathological
liars
:as it is between, um, Darth Vader and Gollum.
:
:Vader: "Bring me the prisoners! I want them alive!"
:
:Gollum (tracing heart shaped medallion on his hand): "Soooo beautiful.
Soooo
reciousss."
:
:Vader: "I find your lack of support for the war disturbing."
:
:Gollum: "We hates Bushes, Preciousss. They are tricksy. They lied to
usss.
:We musst defeat them, and then we be the masster!"

I like that.

Of course, I also think that if we're fighting a war and we've GOT a
Vader, I want to use him.


You want to use a guy who repeatedly allowed his entire army to be destroyed
by a band of teenage rebels?

C J Campbell wrote...

You want to use a guy who repeatedly allowed his
entire army to be destroyed by a band of teenage
rebels?

He would've gotten away with it if it weren't for
those meddling kids and their stupid dog.

Dave 'cereal killer' Hyde

The trouble is that Moore is a pathological liar who is calling other
pathological liars liars! So, we can't believe any of them.


Matt


Good one Matt! I have to agree with you on this.

Bill

On 24 Aug 2004 16:48:14 -0700, ChuckSlusarczyk
wrote:

In article , Badwater Bill says...
One thing Moore is convinced of is that Bush is
truely a pathological liar. I might have to agree with that, however,
my problem is...that Kerry is too!


As is Moore his Bowling for Columbine was full of lies and distortions. Like the
scene when he made the deposit at the bank to recieve a firearm .The perception
he created was that all you need do is go to the bank that was having the gun
give away promotion and you walk out with a gun. The reality was he had to wait
for a background check and didn't get the gun the same day. Sounds a lot like a
tactic of someone else I know...

Chuck S


Everything about Moore is like this Chuck. In the latest fictional
movie 9-11 he misrepresented almost all of it. He offers anyone a
reward to prove that there is anything untruthful about the movie. It
just goes to show that the manipulation of the English language by the
media can portray any emotion or opinion it desires, without lying (in
the text). It's an interesting thing actually. Moore is a master of
the art of propoganda. He can create an emotion in an individual that
is 180 degrees from the truth, but can do it by speaking words that
would be interpreted in court as the truth. Of course you need the
camera too. Without the camera I don't think it would work.

I think Moore is a master at propoganda. I'd give the guy an Oscar
just because he's an artist at manipulating our language, the camera
shots, and the emotion to create the emotional effect he desires,
without ever really telling a lie in the sense of the use of words to
do it.

The guy is tallented. The trouble is that I think he hurts our
country by what he does. That's where I draw the line between the
asshole and a respectable human being. Someone will bitch-slap the
**** out of him before it's over. You'll see.

BWB

Badwater Bill wrote:

On 24 Aug 2004 16:48:14 -0700, ChuckSlusarczyk
wrote:


In article , Badwater Bill says...

One thing Moore is convinced of is that Bush is
truely a pathological liar. I might have to agree with that, however,
my problem is...that Kerry is too!


As is Moore his Bowling for Columbine was full of lies and distortions. Like the
scene when he made the deposit at the bank to recieve a firearm .The perception
he created was that all you need do is go to the bank that was having the gun
give away promotion and you walk out with a gun. The reality was he had to wait
for a background check and didn't get the gun the same day. Sounds a lot like a
tactic of someone else I know...

Chuck S



Everything about Moore is like this Chuck. In the latest fictional
movie 9-11 he misrepresented almost all of it. He offers anyone a
reward to prove that there is anything untruthful about the movie. It
just goes to show that the manipulation of the English language by the
media can portray any emotion or opinion it desires, without lying (in
the text). It's an interesting thing actually. Moore is a master of
the art of propoganda. He can create an emotion in an individual that
is 180 degrees from the truth, but can do it by speaking words that
would be interpreted in court as the truth. Of course you need the
camera too. Without the camera I don't think it would work.

I think Moore is a master at propoganda. I'd give the guy an Oscar
just because he's an artist at manipulating our language, the camera
shots, and the emotion to create the emotional effect he desires,
without ever really telling a lie in the sense of the use of words to
do it.

The guy is tallented. The trouble is that I think he hurts our
country by what he does. That's where I draw the line between the
asshole and a respectable human being. Someone will bitch-slap the
**** out of him before it's over. You'll see.

You hold him and I'll .... :-)

Matt

In article ,
(Badwater Bill) wrote:


Everything about Moore is like this Chuck. In the latest fictional
movie 9-11 he misrepresented almost all of it. He offers anyone a
reward to prove that there is anything untruthful about the movie. It
just goes to show that the manipulation of the English language by the
media can portray any emotion or opinion it desires, without lying (in
the text). It's an interesting thing actually. Moore is a master of
the art of propoganda. He can create an emotion in an individual that
is 180 degrees from the truth, but can do it by speaking words that
would be interpreted in court as the truth. Of course you need the
camera too. Without the camera I don't think it would work.

I think Moore is a master at propoganda. I'd give the guy an Oscar
just because he's an artist at manipulating our language, the camera
shots, and the emotion to create the emotional effect he desires,
without ever really telling a lie in the sense of the use of words to
do it.

The guy is tallented. The trouble is that I think he hurts our
country by what he does. That's where I draw the line between the
asshole and a respectable human being. Someone will bitch-slap the
**** out of him before it's over. You'll see.

BWB

OT, but my favorite "lie" is in a commercial for a weight loss product
where they offer a "money back guarantee that you will lose up to 50 lbs
simply by using their product."

LG

Well I realy think that this country is better off with the lieing
awol, diserting MOTHER ****ER that we have now.
just my thoughts on this matter.

On Sun, 22 Aug 2004 14:31:33 GMT, (Badwater
Bill) wrote:

This was emailed to me. I don't doubt the authenticity of it's
intent, I just wonder if it's for real? Anybody know?

BWB
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Subject: Fw: Observations by an Air Force Pilot

I'm confident that in approximately 15 minutes this article will be in
the inboxes of every resident of the free world and maybe even a few
people in France.

Chris Thomas, Air Force Pilot:

I would like to add my two cents about my John Kerry experience.

During my career as an Air Force pilot, I spent two years flying a
small twin engine prop plane around the Pacific from my base in
Okinawa, Japan. On one trip we had to fly Senator Kerry, his
congressional aide, and a Navy Captain (Vietnam, A-4 fighter pilot)

who was also in Kerry's party to various locations in Vietnam and
Cambodia as part of the MIA/POW talks.

When I met him, he was wearing a shirt with a picture of his sailboat
on it. I told him I had a 27' sailboat in Okinawa, he remarked "Oh I
never sail on anything less than 135 feet."

Thanks, Senator, "I feel even better about the meager salary I get
paid for flying you around the Pacific."

When we first flew him into Phnom Penh, he went to the back of the
airplane and grabbed the pizza that was put aside for the crew and
passed it around to his staff. He was never offered any pizza because
they were supposed to have lunch with the Cambodian government when we
landed. The pizza was the crew's only meal for that day and he ate
it.

Then when we picked him up in Cambodia, he was an hour late getting to
the airport. Because fuel was an issue, we could not start the engines
and therefore the air conditioning until he arrived. Phnom Penh at
that time was over 100 degrees with 95% humidity and we were basically
sitting in a greenhouse behind the cockpit windows.

When he finally did arrive, we were wringing out our clothes from the
perspiration. He walks out of the air conditioned car, into the
airplane and asks us "Could you guys get the air-conditioning running,
I'm a little warm?" The other pilot had to physically restrain me from
going back there and picking a fight.

Then we took him into Noi Bai airfield in Hanoi. After we picked him
up the next day (he stayed the night in Vietnam, we stayed in Bangkok)
we taxied out, ran up the engines for take off and noticed that our
prop rpm was vibrating all over the place. We taxied off to the side
to look at it, but there was a good possibility that there was an
engine malfunction and the engine may fail if we took off with it.

Well, Mr. Senator sticks his head up in the cockpit and says "This
plane WILL take off, I have a press conference in Bangkok in three
hours!"

(Maybe this is an indication of how he will run the FAA).

American service members lives be damned, we had our Senatorial
orders. We ran the engines again, and did not have the problem, so we
took off and made it back. During the flight, he told everyone how he
had taken a Cessna (a small General aviation plane)up with a fighter
pilot, and the fighter pilot remarked that Kerry was one of the best
pilots he had ever seen.

I don't know about other pilots out there, but it's hard to imagine a
little, single-engine prop plane pilot being able to show the "right
stuff."

After Kerry left the plane, the Navy Captain came up to us, apologized
and said basically that "he knows Kerry is a jerk" and that we should
be glad we don't have to deal with him every day.

Your choice folks.

Elections in November.

You want a mega-millionaire ego-maniac it's-all-about-me
crew-eating-pizza-ite like Kerry or maybe a Green Party candidate like
Ralph Nader?

Or George Bush, a nice God fearing Christian bent on protecting us
from terrorist attacks on US soil?

Hmmm, let's see?

Continued freedom under President Bush or bombs in our backyard under
Kerry (who will be sailing on his "minimum 135' yacht").

As Fox would say, "we report. You decide."

From:
Date: 8/29/2004 7:16 PM Central Daylight Time
Message-id:

Well I realy think that this country is better off with the lieing
awol, diserting MOTHER ****ER that we have now.
just my thoughts on this matter.


May I suggest a spell checker?

Dan, U.S. Air Force, retired