We Are All Spaniards

Well we do have an election in November and with their success in Spain I
would very surprised if we don't have a major terrorism attempt in the US
in
October.

You can bank on it, sadly.
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"

"Newps" wrote in message
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Which is why we don't have that here.


We don't have it in theory, we do have it in fact.

1. Spaniards changed their vote not because of terror, but because the
government manipulated the information regarding the terror attacks
and tried to mislead the people for their own advantage (ring a
bell?).

If you read the entire thread, you will find that you have missed this
salient point: It doesn't matter one whit if the Spanish voted for the
Socialists because they were influenced by Martians. Rather, what matters
is this: The terrorists must now perceive that elections and troop
deployments can be influenced by indiscriminate attacks on innocent "soft"
targets.

This is a very bad thing.

2. Terrorists are not fighting a religious war. They are fighting the
US and its allies, not Christianity.

No one here says they're fighting Christianity, although that is the
under-current of the conversation. But their fight goes well beyond the "US
and its allies." Rather, it encompasses all of Western civilization and
Western morals and standards.
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"

The jews in 1948 were indiscriminate killers. But by your definition the
Palestinians are rebels too and what they are doing is legitimate,
fighting
for their native soil.

I, for one, do not blame the Palestinians for fighting for their land.

However, they have lost the moral high ground with their moronic, murderous,
suicidal tactics. Where once we saw rebels, all we see now are terrorists.

Damn shame, too. They very nearly had world opinion on their side.

(Same thing happened to the IRA, by the way. Had they held strictly to
fighting the British, they might have pulled it off. Instead, they started
blowing up innocent civilians, and lost public opinion worldwide.)
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"

"Jay Honeck" wrote in message
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I, for one, do not blame the Palestinians for fighting for their land.


They abandoned their land.

The terrorists (what is "the arab empire"?) are not after world
domination, but after their nation's freedom from western domination.
They want US and its allies to get out of the middle west.

Jay H? Can you confirm or deny that we western domination and military
allies in Iowa?

The AFTLOI (Army for the Liberation of Iowa) has a huge following in most
counties outside of Iowa City. Although I am sympathetic of their cause, I
am forced to lay low and keep quiet by the pro-government forces in this
University-town, who rightfully see the US and their allies as their main
source of jobs and income.

It's a damned frustrating place to live, but rest assured -- most of us want
the U.S. and their allies out of the Middle West!

;-)
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"

Wow. I never thought of Brittany Spears as a valiant agent of change,
crusader of American "culture". I always thought she was just a
slightly dimwitted so called singer, blessed with a lusty body and
willing to flaunt it.

Good thing it's Brittany.

If Don had said it was Eminem (as my son firmly believes), I was about to
switch sides and join the Mujahadin in their Holy War!

;-)
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"

Also, why do you assume freedom = democracy? For most people, freedom
means to be left alone to live their lives any way they want. In your
case, that means a certain political system, a certain culture, a
certain moral system, etc. In the case of the arab world, it means
something different. Who is to say that this is wrong? You can't apply
your particular moral system to another culture.

Wow -- it's rare to see moral relativism raised to such absurd levels --
even here.

No one is applying a "moral system" to another culture -- we are saying that
democracy is what freedom *is* all about. This crosses all ethnic,
religious, and cultural boundaries.

How do YOU define "freedom," if not freedom from tyranny?
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"

Jay Honeck wrote:



I, for one, do not blame the Palestinians for fighting for their land.

Unfortunately the Palestinians don't have any land. Never did. Israel
did not kick the Palestinians out of present day Israel.

You know, it is that "and our other allies" part that bothers me. The
infamous "either you are with us, or you are against us" BS. Reality
is rarely black and white. Zapatero said he will withdraw his forces
from Irak. Will you stand with Spain after that? Will the victims
still deserve your sympathy? Or will the mother of that student who
was blown to bits become your instant enemy?

Welcome to the world. The Islamofascists leave little wiggle room on this
subject.

As far as I'm concerned, the victims will always deserve our sympathy. All
the more so after their government ceases to be our ally.
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"