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You might post this over on rec.aviation.rotorcraft Where you can legally
land off-airport is actually a practical every-day concern for helicopters. It turns out that, where it is prohibited, it is often routine to be granted a one-time permit to operate anyway. But someone over there may have a list like you are looking for. "NW_PILOT" wrote in message ... Ok, Since no place has a list I think I will be making some phone calls to state offices and make a list. "NW_PILOT" wrote in message news Ok, this may sound like an odd question but here it goes is there a list of State laws Concerning Landing On Public Roads? The only one i have found is for Montana: The following is taken directly from the Montana Code; MCA 67-1-204 (3) Lawfulness of Flight and Landings: Aircraft landings and takeoffs from public roads in this state are lawful if proper safety precautions, as approved by the governing jurisdiction of the roads, are taken prior to the landing or takeoff, except as otherwise provided in this section. However, the local governing jurisdiction may not incur liability as a result of an approval under this subsection. |
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john smith wrote:
Interstate 71 north of Cincinnati, between the 41 and 44 mile markers. Two parallel 15,000 runways. They are repaving this stretch. The old pavement was 12 inches of concrete with 6 inches of asphalt overlay. Wright-Patterson Air Force Base, the Springfield ANG and Rickenbacker ANG bases are within 30-40 miles of this site. Quite common in both Germanys, too. There are several stretches of the Autobahn, where the medium is paved, the center guard rails can easily be dismounted, and there are omimous 'side roads' leading into the surrounding forests to bunkers, hangars, and underground fuel tanks. However that doesn't imply at all that the Autobahn police would appreciate you landing there for a potty break. And even in case of an emergency you are possibly better off selecting a field nearby then landing in the middle of rushhour traffic. jue |
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Jürgen Exner wrote:
Quite common in both Germanys, too. There are several stretches of the Autobahn, where the medium is paved, Darn spell checkers! That's supposed to "median" of course. jue |
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And each overpass has to be a minimum height between the road surface
and the lowest span of the overpass to allow military equipment to be transported on trucks to pass without "catching" the equipment. Ash Wyllie wrote: And every(most?) overpass was to have a fall out shelter, with food, built into it. |
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I wish they'd mark them places on sectionals!
-Frank Interstate highways, are a different story. There is supposed to be some law on the books from either Eisenhower's or Truman's Presidency (perhaps revised later) when the Interstate system was created. Every x amount of miles, the interstate must be in a straight line (no turns), with no bridges OVER it, in case planes need to land in emergency. I remember vaguely reading about this at the FBO at KVGT, but can't remember which law mandated this. BL. |
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Quite common in both Germanys, too. There are several stretches of the
Autobahn, where the medium is paved On the Autobahn, I'd be afraid of being rear-ended during the flair! -Frank |
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On Fri, 10 Dec 2004 10:24:04 -0800, "NW_PILOT"
wrote: "NW_PILOT" wrote in message ... Wonder if AOPA has somthing burried in their site. I have sent an e-mail to them. AOPA was not much help when asked the same question! Response: The landing of an airplane on anything other than a public use airport is at the discretion of the owner of the land. Public roads are state owned. You would have to check with the individual state highway commissions to states you plan on traveling to. Unfortunately we do not have a list of states that have provisions in their law for such activity. This is not a complete answer and it is not completely correct... Not all public roads are state, or federal roads. There are also county roads which fall under county and possibly township, and municipal laws. So, at least in Michigan you may land on a road way out in the country with no problem. You taxi past a cross road to take off and are ticketed as you just crossed into a county or township that has a regulation against landing on the roads. OTOH several times they have stopped traffic on the interstates so pilots who had to land due to an emergency could take off. In other areas the planes had to be trucked out. In one case the pilot said he called airport to send out a truck, the authorities left, and he took off with no one the wiser. So, in many parts of the country you never know if it's legal to land on the road or not, but it will be a local regulation unless a state has a blanket rule against it. Roger Halstead (K8RI & ARRL life member) (N833R, S# CD-2 Worlds oldest Debonair) www.rogerhalstead.com If you have any further questions feel free to contact us at 1-800-872-2672. Best Regards, Nathan Rohrbaugh Aviation Technical Specialist Aviation Services Department Fax 301-695-2375 www.aopa.org |
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On Fri, 10 Dec 2004 02:55:14 GMT, "G.R. Patterson III"
wrote: A Guy Called Tyketto wrote: Interstate highways, are a different story. There is supposed to be some law on the books from either Eisenhower's or Truman's Presidency (perhaps revised later) when the Interstate system was created. Never happened. See http://www.snopes.com/autos/law/airstrip.asp I'd have to disagree with snopes on this one. They had a program on the development of the interstates (one of the discovery channels) and they covered the part of the interstates for the military. Not that they be straight for so many miles, but that they could be used for emergency landings. Roger Halstead (K8RI & ARRL life member) (N833R, S# CD-2 Worlds oldest Debonair) www.rogerhalstead.com George Patterson The desire for safety stands against every great and noble enterprise. |
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"Roger" wrote:
Not all public roads are state, or federal roads. There are also county roads which fall under county and possibly township, and municipal laws. So, at least in Michigan you may land on a road way out in the country with no problem. Michigan law reads this way: 259.80d Landing aircraft. (1) An aircraft shall not land, except in an emergency, on private property, other than upon recognized landing areas, unless express permission is secured from the owner or lessee. (2) A person shall not land an aircraft on a public highway, except in an emergency. A person shall not operate an aircraft on a public highway unless traffic is controlled by law enforcement officials. FF |
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There is an old story that circulated in Thailand around the Vietnam
War era. The story goes; The US built a road in Northern Thailand for the Thai people. The road was a curvy gravel road for miles and miles, except for a six mile stretch that was a perfectly straight and level four lane paved highway in the middle of nowhere. You guessed it. it was used for B52s. I don't know if it is true or not. Bryan |
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