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Connecting a GNS 430/530 to a PC
Hi,
It seems most handheld GPS can be connected to a computer (through a serial cable, IIRC). That allows some cool features, like preparing your flightplan in advance on your PC, or downloading to the PC the actual positions of your aircraft in order to obtain a chart of the actual flight path. Now, do you know if panel-mounted GPS can also be connected to a PC ? Namely for Garmin's GNS 530 ? I can't see any reference to this on the 530 reference manual, and I would be surprise that handheld GPS can do thing that Garmin's top tier GPS can't. fu2 rec.aviation.marketplace -- YAG |
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Hi,
really a new idea :-) It is possible to use the NMEA output of the Garmin 430/530 as an input for a PC. It is NOT possible to up-/download flightplans or waypoints. This is NOT a technical problem. It seems that it is not allowed for IFR or installed GPS-systems to get Flightplans or waypoints via an external device. There is only one chance to feed a Garmin 430/530 legally... with another Garmin 430/530 via Crossfill. Solution would be: write a program that simulates the communication between two Garmins 430/530 and feed this program with flightplans and waypoints from a flightplaning program or handheld GPS-systems. Than you could up-/download flightplans and waypoints. I would be happy to get such a software but writing it it is not a way to get rich :-) Another solution is a VFR only GPS like the KMD150. Here you can up-/downlaod waypoints and flightplans. Regards Maik PS: If I wrote anything stupid please correct me asap. thx. PA34 F-GFTF wrote: Hi, It seems most handheld GPS can be connected to a computer (through a serial cable, IIRC). That allows some cool features, like preparing your flightplan in advance on your PC, or downloading to the PC the actual positions of your aircraft in order to obtain a chart of the actual flight path. Now, do you know if panel-mounted GPS can also be connected to a PC ? Namely for Garmin's GNS 530 ? I can't see any reference to this on the 530 reference manual, and I would be surprise that handheld GPS can do thing that Garmin's top tier GPS can't. fu2 rec.aviation.marketplace |
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It seems most handheld GPS can be connected to a computer (through a
serial cable, IIRC). That allows some cool features, like preparing your flightplan in advance on your PC, or downloading to the PC the actual positions of your aircraft in order to obtain a chart of the actual flight path. Now, do you know if panel-mounted GPS can also be connected to a PC ? Namely for Garmin's GNS 530 ? The 430/530 has a serial port output. If you wire the aircraft for it, then you could connect it to your PDA or notebook to get a moving map, which makes no sense because the 530 is already a moving map. Plus the data format is King/Aviation, not NMEA, so most off the shelf moving map programs couldn't interpret the serial data anyway. One interesting thing you could do is to capture and store the flight data so you can look at it later. No normal 430/530 installation puts a serial port connection there for you on the panel, it would have to be a special thing for your airplane. The 430/530 has several serial ports but they are for connecting to other equipment or a 2nd 530 unit for cross filling flight plans. The cross fill serial port details are not published so you can't upload your own flight plan from your PDA or laptop either. I can't see any reference to this on the 530 reference manual, and I would be surprise that handheld GPS can do thing that Garmin's top tier GPS can't. It's a certification thing. Nobody wants you to be able to load a flight plan from an external source. There is no assurance that the data is valid. No general aviation panel mounted TSO'd GPS will allow you to externally load a flight plan. All of them will provide serial data output in various formats but are rarely wired for the pilot to have access. If you want to play with a GPS in this manner, use your handheld. |
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I do not believe there is anyway to connect the panel-mount products
to a PC. I also went from a ahndheld GPS to a panel-mount version (430) nad sure do miss the functionality of uploading a flightplan. There is a second, but unused, data port on the 430 that could perhaps provide the avenue to do this. I have talked to others and have heard - not confirmed - that there may be a certification issue in permitting uploading of data to a certified device. Jack Sundowner- N6363U "PA34 F-GFTF" wrote in message ... Hi, It seems most handheld GPS can be connected to a computer (through a serial cable, IIRC). That allows some cool features, like preparing your flightplan in advance on your PC, or downloading to the PC the actual positions of your aircraft in order to obtain a chart of the actual flight path. Now, do you know if panel-mounted GPS can also be connected to a PC ? Namely for Garmin's GNS 530 ? I can't see any reference to this on the 530 reference manual, and I would be surprise that handheld GPS can do thing that Garmin's top tier GPS can't. fu2 rec.aviation.marketplace |
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"Maik" wrote in message
... Hi, really a new idea :-) It is possible to use the NMEA output of the Garmin 430/530 as an input for a PC. It is NOT possible to up-/download flightplans or waypoints. This is NOT a technical problem. snip Thanks. Obviously it's not a new idea, but I couldn't find this info by myself. Really too bad about the entry of flight plan. I guess there's a similar problem about composing checklists into the GPS. What about the data card : does it allow to enter some info into the GNS430/530 ? Apart from the normal update ? Thx -- YAG |
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PA34 F-GFTF wrote: "Maik" wrote in message ... Hi, really a new idea :-) It is possible to use the NMEA output of the Garmin 430/530 as an input for a PC. It is NOT possible to up-/download flightplans or waypoints. This is NOT a technical problem. snip Thanks. Obviously it's not a new idea, but I couldn't find this info by myself. Really too bad about the entry of flight plan. I guess there's a similar problem about composing checklists into the GPS. What about the data card : does it allow to enter some info into the GNS430/530 ? Apart from the normal update ? AFAIK the data on this card is compressed and it has only 4 MB. I don't think that this is a possible way. A french guy wrote a program for Palm to simulate a Garmin handheld GPS. He wanted to be able to transfer data (routes and waypoints) and other things between 2 units. Unfortunately he has no access to a 430. Maybe you could contact him :-) -----------------------snip------------------- GPilotS allows connection between a PalmPilot and a Garmin GPS in order to take advantage of the memory and the ergonomics of the PalmPilot to store, create and edit waypoints (with symbol and display mode support) & Routes. Tracks can also be stored in order to be re-transmitted to other Garmin GPS (II+, 12 ,12XL, 48. eTrex, eMap, ...) or any Garmin compatible software. ----------------------snap-------------------- http://www.cru.fr/perso/cc/GPilotS/ Fly safe Maik |
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Isn't the software in the 430/530 Windows based?
Why would a manufacturer want to allow the potential corruption of their operating system for such a crucial device? PA34 F-GFTF wrote: Hi, It seems most handheld GPS can be connected to a computer (through a serial cable, IIRC). That allows some cool features, like preparing your flightplan in advance on your PC, or downloading to the PC the actual positions of your aircraft in order to obtain a chart of the actual flight path. Now, do you know if panel-mounted GPS can also be connected to a PC ? Namely for Garmin's GNS 530 ? I can't see any reference to this on the 530 reference manual, and I would be surprise that handheld GPS can do thing that Garmin's top tier GPS can't. fu2 rec.aviation.marketplace |
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john smith wrote: Isn't the software in the 430/530 Windows based? It isn't Windows based. Why would a manufacturer want to allow the potential corruption of their operating system for such a crucial device? They don't. |
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