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Gliders in the Grand Canyon
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Hash: SHA1 Mxsmanic wrote: Richard Riley writes: There's an old Irish saying: 'If everybody says you're drunk, you'd better sit down.' Another saying is that the majority is not always right. However, there's no majority here, only some posters who are far more active than others. Being active doesn't make one right. Yet another saying: There's lies, damn lies, and statistics. As we have (and continue to do) shown you statistics, yet you have nothing to back up your claims, it is easily conclusive that you are a damn lie. With mediums like USENET and the Internet, when you make a statement, you had best have the documentation or supporting tools to back up your claim. In the beginning you are implicitly given the benefit of the doubt, but when you waste that, you become the boy who cried wolf. No-one believes you, even if you may be right. Right now, no-one believes you, and we're all at the point that we don't care. BL. - -- Brad Littlejohn | Email: Unix Systems Administrator, | Web + NewsMaster, BOFH.. Smeghead! | http://www.wizard.com/~tyketto PGP: 1024D/E319F0BF 6980 AAD6 7329 E9E6 D569 F620 C819 199A E319 F0BF -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.7 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFGZ0C0yBkZmuMZ8L8RAlqfAJ9l8uZ6BTtcJoG6b/FwcyufC/5JCACcCkbt 83SnKT4UqIxAmTxW3qk/C0A= =Yg5/ -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- |
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Bret Berger wrote: I drove the entire length of the runway at Toroweep (Tuweap) a few months ago in a pickup truck. I didn't see an X. The national park service ranger stationed about a mile away says that it still gets very occasional use. The following is offered because a lot has been said about Tuweep. This airstrip is an example of the fuzzy (IMHO) distinction between open, closed, maintained or not. Though it's legally closed, as the above poster states, it is usable. Its condition unmaintained appears to be the same as it was maintained. I landed there once a few years ago for the heck of it and to take a pee. I drive by it about once a year. It's 60-70 miles from any paved road in a hot dry landscape with no building or natural shade. Aside from the NPS ranger (who has no authority over the strip), there is only one other resident in the whole valley, I believe. Any airport manager was in name only, and there was no equipment for maintenance. Possibly the county road grader made an appearance every few years, but I haven't seen any evidence of it. There is absolutely no place to go once you land there, unless you're a hiker used to the heat. The nearest and only attraction is about 6.5 miles by road at the Toroweap overlook of the Grand Canyon, and that is as spectacular a sight as you'll ever see, well worth the effort, but would suggest you drive in and spend the night at the campground. Despite attempts by back country pilots to "reopen" this strip, I think its "glory" days ended when they stopped flying in supplies and rafters for the Colorado River trips many years ago. |
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A Guy Called Tyketto writes:
Like others, I hope to never fly with you or around you (which won't happen, since you said you won't/don't fly). Neither do you. Why is that significant for me, but not for you? |
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JGalban via AviationKB.com writes:
I flew into the airport at Marble Canyon. At no time did I enter the SFRA. Yes, you did. The SFRA starts at the surface. |
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A Guy Called Tyketto writes:
Right now, no-one believes you, and we're all at the point that we don't care. Does the alpha dog approve of your sycophancy? |
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Hash: SHA1 Mxsmanic wrote: A Guy Called Tyketto writes: Like others, I hope to never fly with you or around you (which won't happen, since you said you won't/don't fly). Neither do you. Why is that significant for me, but not for you? Don't know where you heard that; I just transferred my hours from my time at CCSN at VGT to the flight school at Rancho Murieta. You just proved my point; you mouth off before you have any facts to support your comment. That makes you, and everything you say, a crock. BL. - -- Brad Littlejohn | Email: Unix Systems Administrator, | Web + NewsMaster, BOFH.. Smeghead! | http://www.wizard.com/~tyketto PGP: 1024D/E319F0BF 6980 AAD6 7329 E9E6 D569 F620 C819 199A E319 F0BF -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.7 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFGZ5YUyBkZmuMZ8L8RAtZiAKD3cHc7mrDcMT8bco6IQN xITPL8dQCgyqLc CN4zU5mmqFfHdBOzVC/Xq2o= =bUE4 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- |
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Hash: SHA1 Mxsmanic wrote: A Guy Called Tyketto writes: Right now, no-one believes you, and we're all at the point that we don't care. Does the alpha dog approve of your sycophancy? Do the people in this newsgroup approve and tolerate your incorrect vernacular? If you want to start a war of words, I'm more than happy to oblige. BL. - -- Brad Littlejohn | Email: Unix Systems Administrator, | Web + NewsMaster, BOFH.. Smeghead! | http://www.wizard.com/~tyketto PGP: 1024D/E319F0BF 6980 AAD6 7329 E9E6 D569 F620 C819 199A E319 F0BF -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.7 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFGZ5bDyBkZmuMZ8L8RAjAgAKC5cFESdoyWq3K4yssqX0 RwxW0w4QCfd7ub 507Unt+5qathLm8PKGQFwHo= =NrW0 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- |
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A Guy Called Tyketto writes:
Don't know where you heard that ... From the FAA. |
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A Guy Called Tyketto writes:
Do the people in this newsgroup approve and tolerate your incorrect vernacular? I rarely use the vernacular. |
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On Jun 7, 8:00 am, Mxsmanic wrote:
A Guy Called Tyketto writes: Don't know where you heard that ... From the FAA. Do you expect us to believe you actually "heard" anything from the FAA? When you google up an FAA document, do you hear FAA worker voices in your head? F-- |
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