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"C J Campbell" wrote in message ... An interesting point, but if you do not support the suicide's family and educate his children, then the suicide himself has decided to doom his family to poverty or even death. I don't think he has the right to do that in a free society. I might choose to assist the suicide's family. That's charity, and altogether different from being forced to support them. |
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"C J Campbell" wrote in message ... And if a suicide imposes these problems on them, then they are not living in a free society, either. How so? If the suicide had not killed himself, but just abandoned them instead, would their problems be any different? |
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"Paul Tomblin" wrote in message ... Remember the good old days, when it was the Republicans who thought that the government shouldn't make laws taking away your right to do something unless it harmed others? Well, since that's pretty much still the case, yes, I do remember it. |
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"C J Campbell" writes:
"Otis Winslow" wrote in message ... "C J Campbell" wrote in message ... Baloney. No one's life is their own, nor is anyone an island to themselves. This is typical Liberal BS. When I hear someone else tell me how they are entitled to control my life I see red. When somebody commits suicide they are in fact attempting to control your life. They want you to pay for their problems, raise their kids, pay their medical bills, etc. One of the common causes of suicide is a terminal medical condition; suicide in that situation *reduces* medical bills. Kids can be an issue, and the spouse (who gets stuck with the kids by default) is often the big loser. You know, it really amuses me the way some people in this group think I am an extreme liberal and the others think I am a right wing lunatic. If it helps you to ignore people by putting labels on them and filing them away, be my guest. But that does not make the problem go away. Are you really suggesting that some kid should be allowed to hang himself because he got a D on his chemistry test -- that he has some kind of right to do that without interference? If not, at what point do you think the decision to kill yourself should be left to the individual? Yes. I think it's a *terribly* bad decision, but the whole point of personal sovereignty is that we don't get to make private decisions for other people. I think the kid should be encouraged to seek counseling, his friends should be encouraged to call the counselors on his behalf even. But in the end when it comes down to "allowing" or "preventing", it's his choice. -- David Dyer-Bennet, , http://www.dd-b.net/dd-b/ RKBA: http://noguns-nomoney.com http://www.dd-b.net/carry/ Photos: dd-b.lighthunters.net Snapshots: www.dd-b.net/dd-b/SnapshotAlbum/ Dragaera/Steven Brust: http://dragaera.info/ |
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"Steven P. McNicoll" wrote in message ink.net...
"SelwayKid" wrote in message m... What would you do if your passengers lit up their marijuana in the back of a twin? I'd inform them smoking is not allowed aboard my aircraft. What would you do if your passenger decided to get out of the airplane while in flight? Tell him it's a bad idea. Unless he plans to smoke. I taught at one FBO that had a sign on the panel that said, "Please step outside if you wish to smoke". -Robert, CFI |
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Dan Truesdell wrote: Thanks for the explanations. Food for thought if we get into a similar situations. (Although, I doubt that any of my pax will be hitting the bar in the 172.) and I sure won't be knocking anyone out by reducing cabin pressure in the Maule. George Patterson This marriage is off to a shaky start. The groom just asked the band to play "Your cheatin' heart", and the bride just requested "Don't come home a'drinkin' with lovin' on your mind". |
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"Otis Winslow" wrote in message ... "C J Campbell" wrote in message ... Baloney. No one's life is their own, nor is anyone an island to themselves. This is typical Liberal BS. I think the conservatives are far more intrusive in people's lives. |
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"C J Campbell" wrote in message ... Agreed...vehemently. (Though the points made about falling hazards, etc., are quite legitimate. His life is his own, but go quietly into that long good-night..) Baloney. No one's life is their own, Then whose is it? nor is anyone an island to themselves. No one can commit suicide without adversely affecting the lives of many others. (Well, maybe Saddam Hussein could.) Nice barf on co-dependency. |
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"Steven P. McNicoll" wrote in message ink.net... "C J Campbell" wrote in message ... Baloney. No one's life is their own, nor is anyone an island to themselves. In a free society one's life is their own. And in a proper family setting as well. (Having watched a parent take a year to die from a brain tumor, I think I can claim a bit of experinces on that.) No one can commit suicide without adversely affecting the lives of many others. Irrelevant. Quite. |
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