Air Force One

Wrong (IMHO).

The next AF1 will be small and VERY fast. 20 people, tops!

New sonic boom resistant designs, etc.

Mach 2+ a minimum to enter the bidding.

--
Montblack


"Buff5200"
snip
If and when a new AF1 is built, it will probably have the same heavy
lift capacity of the 747 line.

Next AF1's will probably be built on C-5A airframes.

I don't know about that. If I remember correctly from the National
Geographic presentation, half the reason they retired their 707 was because
it couldn't carry all the people they wanted to carry comfortably. Not to
mention, I doubt you could turn a 20 passenger jet into the mobile White
House like the current jet. They also have two of them that don't fly much
and will probably be around for many many years to come. I'm willing to bet
the next Airforce One will be an aircraft that's not even on the drawling
board yet.

"Montblack" wrote in message
.. .
Wrong (IMHO).

The next AF1 will be small and VERY fast. 20 people, tops!

New sonic boom resistant designs, etc.

Mach 2+ a minimum to enter the bidding.

--
Montblack


"Buff5200"
snip
If and when a new AF1 is built, it will probably have the same heavy
lift capacity of the 747 line.

Next AF1's will probably be built on C-5A airframes.

"RLB" wrote in message ...
I don't know about that. If I remember correctly from the National
Geographic presentation, half the reason they retired their 707 was because
it couldn't carry all the people they wanted to carry comfortably. Not to
mention, I doubt you could turn a 20 passenger jet into the mobile White
House like the current jet. They also have two of them that don't fly much
and will probably be around for many many years to come. I'm willing to bet
the next Airforce One will be an aircraft that's not even on the drawling
board yet.


It will probably be 50+ years before replacements are in order.
Could be longer than that. By then, it will depend entirely upon
what existing airframes are available. It is possible that it
could be an airframe designed for that purpose. More likely
it could be an airframe intended to replace the C-5/C-17 class
of aircraft.

"Montblack" wrote in message
.. .
Wrong (IMHO).

The next AF1 will be small and VERY fast. 20 people, tops!

This isn't all that far afield, depending upon the direction
that the aircraft industry in general goes.


New sonic boom resistant designs, etc.

Mach 2+ a minimum to enter the bidding.
[snip]

Might be a tad fast, but Mach 1+ might be
a consideration.

"Montblack" wrote in message .. .
Wrong (IMHO).

The next AF1 will be small and VERY fast. 20 people, tops!

New sonic boom resistant designs, etc.

Mach 2+ a minimum to enter the bidding.


20 people can't even begin to provide presidential support.

What the hell is a sonic boom resistant design?

In article , Buff5200
wrote:

Next AF1's will probably be built on C-5A airframes.

re-opening the C-5A production line is, at best, extremely unlikely.

--
Bob Noel

A lot of the costs associated with AF1 (&AF2 as it was often called) were
the electronics, sophisticated wiring systems and secure communication
links. Due to security reasons, I believe the electronics work would be
done in the US irregardless of airframe origin. The Air Force provided
extremely tight security on those aircraft as they were in the modification
stages.




"Buff5200" wrote in message
...

My understanding is that the cost of the aircraft delivered by Boeing is
less than half the total
cost of the AF1 aircraft.

Airforce one is highly modified to be both a luxury office complex for
schmoozing dignitaries
and an airborne command/control/communication center that is a 21
century version of
"Looking Glass".

If and when a new AF1 is built, it will probably have the same heavy
lift capacity of the 747 line.

Next AF1's will probably be built on C-5A airframes.

A Guy Called Tyketto wrote:

The B742 is just about all phased out, with the B744 and the
B777 doing the majority of the long haul runs of the Boeing line (yes,
the 767 series is there, but doesn't have the range of the 747 and
777), So, what would do you think the US gov't would do for the B742's
version of AF1's replacement? Does the Gov't have a contract with
Airbus, which could present the A380? Would they stay Boeing, and go
B772 (the B773 has a shorter range than the 772)? Which aircraft do you
think should be the next Air Force One? Thoughts? Opinions?

BL.

The US Govt makes employees fly US carriers when possible, they aren't
about to buy a non US plane. Range wouldn't be a problem if they really
need it. After all, AF1 isn't your everyday 747. It can also be refueled
in midair.

"mrtravel" wrote in message ...

The US Govt makes employees fly US carriers when possible, they aren't
about to buy a non US plane.

Really, not in my governement service. The only qualification was price.

Maybe buy European Airbus and show some solidarity with Europe rather than
it always being the other way round

On Sun, 6 Jul 2003 20:07:14 +0000 (UTC) "Jean-Pierre"
wrote:

:Maybe buy European Airbus and show some solidarity with Europe rather than
:it always being the other way round

Yeah, you Europeans were a real help in WW2.

And we certainly saw your support in the UN after 9/11.

--
Binyamin Dissen
http://www.dissensoftware.com