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Old November 19th 03, 06:52 PM
EDR
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Aero-News Quote of the Day

"This tragic accident that took the lives of a respected U.S. Senator,
members of his family, staff, and the flight crew, shocked us all...*It
sadly and starkly points out the need for more aggressive action to
improve safety in the on-demand charter industry."

Source:*NTSB Chairman Ellen G. Engleman, commenting on the final report
issued in the NTSB investigation of the KingAir crash that took the
life of Senator Paul Wellstone and seven others.*


You don't suppose the federal governments decisions to close local
flight service stations (and control towers that report weather) over
the past twenty years have had anything to do with it, do you?
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Old November 19th 03, 07:33 PM
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The NTSB report concluded that that pilot stalled the aircraft. How would a
control tower or a local FSS have prevented that?

Best regards,

Steve Robertson
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EDR wrote:

Aero-News Quote of the Day

"This tragic accident that took the lives of a respected U.S. Senator,
members of his family, staff, and the flight crew, shocked us all... It
sadly and starkly points out the need for more aggressive action to
improve safety in the on-demand charter industry."

Source: NTSB Chairman Ellen G. Engleman, commenting on the final report
issued in the NTSB investigation of the KingAir crash that took the
life of Senator Paul Wellstone and seven others.

You don't suppose the federal governments decisions to close local
flight service stations (and control towers that report weather) over
the past twenty years have had anything to do with it, do you?


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Old November 19th 03, 07:45 PM
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"EDR" wrote in message
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Aero-News Quote of the Day

"This tragic accident that took the lives of a respected U.S. Senator,
members of his family, staff, and the flight crew, shocked us all... It
sadly and starkly points out the need for more aggressive action to
improve safety in the on-demand charter industry."

Source: NTSB Chairman Ellen G. Engleman, commenting on the final report
issued in the NTSB investigation of the KingAir crash that took the
life of Senator Paul Wellstone and seven others.


You don't suppose the federal governments decisions to close local
flight service stations (and control towers that report weather) over
the past twenty years have had anything to do with it, do you?


No. Eveleth-Virginia Municipal Airport has never had a control tower or a
FSS. When there was a FSS at nearby Hibbing weather observations were not
taken at EVM, but EVM does have weather reporting now.


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Old November 19th 03, 07:54 PM
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EDR wrote:

You don't suppose the federal governments decisions to close local
flight service stations (and control towers that report weather) over
the past twenty years have had anything to do with it, do you?


No, I don't.

George Patterson
A man who carries a cat by the tail learns something that can
be learned no other way.
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Old November 20th 03, 01:56 AM
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In article , Steve Robertson
wrote:

The NTSB report concluded that that pilot stalled the aircraft. How would a
control tower or a local FSS have prevented that?


He stalled it because he flew into icing conditions and iced up.
AFSS's are so widely located the the local weather the smaller local
FSS's would gather provided filled in the gaps.
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Old November 20th 03, 01:57 AM
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"EDR" wrote in message
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He stalled it because he flew into icing conditions and iced up.
AFSS's are so widely located the the local weather the smaller local
FSS's would gather provided filled in the gaps.


There are more weather observation stations now than before FSS
consolidation. One of them is at the Eveleth-Virginia airport.


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Old November 20th 03, 03:20 AM
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I thought this was a part 91 flight. Wasn't his kid flying the plane with
him in the right seat?

How's that a 135 operation?

mike regish

"EDR" wrote in message
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Aero-News Quote of the Day

"This tragic accident that took the lives of a respected U.S. Senator,
members of his family, staff, and the flight crew, shocked us all... It
sadly and starkly points out the need for more aggressive action to
improve safety in the on-demand charter industry."

Source: NTSB Chairman Ellen G. Engleman, commenting on the final report
issued in the NTSB investigation of the KingAir crash that took the
life of Senator Paul Wellstone and seven others.


You don't suppose the federal governments decisions to close local
flight service stations (and control towers that report weather) over
the past twenty years have had anything to do with it, do you?



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Old November 20th 03, 03:25 AM
Steven P. McNicoll
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"mike regish" wrote in message
news:OxVub.191838$9E1.1021751@attbi_s52...

I thought this was a part 91 flight. Wasn't his kid flying the plane with
him in the right seat?

How's that a 135 operation?


Paul Wellstone of Minnesota, not Mel Carnahan of Missouri.


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Old November 20th 03, 05:52 AM
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In article . net,
Steven P. McNicoll wrote:

There are more weather observation stations now than before FSS
consolidation. One of them is at the Eveleth-Virginia airport.


AWOS and ASOS are no substitute for human observers and balloons.
It would be an interesting study to learn how many accidents have been
caused by pilots flying into conditions reported by ASOS and AWOS.
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Old November 20th 03, 07:32 AM
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On 2003-11-19 20:52:17 -0800, EDR said

In article . net
Steven P. McNicoll wrote

There are more weather observation stations now than before FS
consolidation. One of them is at the Eveleth-Virginia airport


AWOS and ASOS are no substitute for human observers and balloons
It would be an interesting study to learn how many accidents have bee
caused by pilots flying into conditions reported by ASOS and AWOS


Are you offering to fund all of these human observers

 




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