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Whats it take to get a ride on a jump seat
Of a commercial airline flight. Is it just out of the question?
I have a comm'l ticket and am an avid aviator so we I might have something to bond with the crew on the ground, and can understand the need to stay out of their hair in the air. That said, I'm not a beautiful lady, so I don't have that going for me. I imagine that no degree of schmoozing and trying can get me into a jump seat, unless I happen to know one of the crew. Anyone disagree? T |
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Whats it take to get a ride on a jump seat
Tman wrote:
seat, unless I happen to know one of the crew. Anyone disagree? Two At least on a US based scheduled carrier, you can't usually there simply by knowing the crew. In the last year or two, "Flying" author Dick Karl did a ride-along with fellow "Flying" author Les Abend, on one of Capt. Abend's trips. The pass he needed required nearly an act of Congress to get, but it was possible. Once upon a time, Air Traffic Controllers were allowed to ride in the jumpseat with proper FAA credentials. From what I understand, even that is no longer allowed. I've hitched rides on Part 135 shared charters by knowing the crew, but the other passengers thought I was another paying customer, and there is no FAA reg forbidding a free passenger. When I was a kid in the 70's, a neighbor who flew for American took me outside on the ramp to walk around parked aircraft @ JFK. We even got to walk up the external Jetway stairs to tour the planes. It's too bad there's pretty much no way to do casual stuff like that anymore. |
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"Tman" wrote in message ... | Of a commercial airline flight. Is it just out of the question? | I have a comm'l ticket and am an avid aviator so we I might have | something to bond with the crew on the ground, and can understand the | need to stay out of their hair in the air. | That said, I'm not a beautiful lady, so I don't have that going for me. | I imagine that no degree of schmoozing and trying can get me into a jump | seat, unless I happen to know one of the crew. Anyone disagree? | T Prior to 911, some airlines would allow employees (without facial hair) to ride jump seat at the Captains discretion. The practice was not uncommon, and often used to allow one more person on an otherwise full aircraft. No way to tell how often the Captains said yes. Since 911, I'm not really sure. The no facial hair requirement was specified to assure proper fit of the O2 mask in an emergency. |
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Whats it take to get a ride on a jump seat
Maxwell wrote:
The no facial hair requirement was specified to assure proper fit of the O2 mask in an emergency. ? I see lots of airline pilots with thick mustaches. |
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"B A R R Y" wrote in message
... Maxwell wrote: The no facial hair requirement was specified to assure proper fit of the O2 mask in an emergency. ? I see lots of airline pilots with thick mustaches. As usual, Maxie doesn't know what he's squawking about. It depends on the airline in question, but mustaches are generally tolerated and some even allow beards under certain criteria. Riding in the jump seat is highly overrated. Even back in the day when I could ride jumpseat, I preferred to ride in the back, even if it was in coach. |
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Whats it take to get a ride on a jump seat
"Mike" nospam @ aol.com wrote in message ... | | As usual, Maxie doesn't know what he's squawking about. | | It depends on the airline in question, but mustaches are generally tolerated | and some even allow beards under certain criteria. | | Riding in the jump seat is highly overrated. Even back in the day when I | could ride jumpseat, I preferred to ride in the back, even if it was in | coach. | Well by all means little Mikey Mouth, what airlines allow beards that interrupt the seal of an O2 mask. |
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"Maxwell" #$$9#@%%%.^^^ wrote in message
... "Mike" nospam @ aol.com wrote in message ... | | As usual, Maxie doesn't know what he's squawking about. | | It depends on the airline in question, but mustaches are generally tolerated | and some even allow beards under certain criteria. | | Riding in the jump seat is highly overrated. Even back in the day when I | could ride jumpseat, I preferred to ride in the back, even if it was in | coach. | Well by all means little Mikey Mouth, what airlines allow beards that interrupt the seal of an O2 mask. None, but that wasn't what I claimed, Okie. How about you name one single airline that DOESN'T allow mustaches, as you claimed? Have you ever worn an aviation O2 mask? Obviously not. I don't know of any major domestic airlines that allow them, although that doesn't mean they don't. Mostly it's just a few regionals and foreign carriers. The point is it's up to the airline in question. Here's one that does allow them, but there are several more. http://www.arcticcircleair.com/Jumpseating.htm |
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Mike wrote:
It depends on the airline in question, but mustaches are generally tolerated and some even allow beards under certain criteria. By the airlines maybe, but I imagine not tolerated too well by the cabin crew. (Chafing issues on the "lay"over). T |
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Whats it take to get a ride on a jump seat
On Wed, 03 Dec 2008 22:18:43 GMT, Mike wrote:
Riding TRYING TO ISOLATE MY RESPONSE TO soc.subculture.online.kooks ddn't work Mikey SHUT THE **** UP ASSHOLE -- Bear Bottoms Private Attorney General |
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Whats it take to get a ride on a jump seat
"Bear Bottoms" wrote in message
... On Wed, 03 Dec 2008 22:18:43 GMT, Mike wrote: Riding TRYING TO ISOLATE MY RESPONSE TO soc.subculture.online.kooks ddn't work Mikey Only because you're too stupid to realize that's exactly where a kook like you SHOULD be posting, Kookie. |
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