Avgas Where is the ceiling?

("Peter R." wrote)
I feel your pain. Here in the northeast US, many airports are over the US
$5. mark, with several of the largest and busiest at or over the $6 mark.


Jet-A
Diesel
Waste grease

http://www.greasecar.com/faq.cfm
click the profiles on the right.


Montblack
Toyota has a 1.4 D-4D (All-Aluminum) diesel car engine in Europe.

I wonder if the various Angel Flight organizations are experiencing a drop
in active volunteer pilots

Yes

In a previous article, "Doug Palmer" said:
100 LL just jumped from $3.82 to $4.54 at our airport, and at HAF we

Brief pause while the Europeans in the group laugh themselves silly at
our so-called high prices

--
Paul Tomblin http://xcski.com/blogs/pt/
"All this news about Terri Schiavo, and i JUST realized that when they
talk about her living in a persistent vegetative state, they don't mean
Florida." - Rone

In a previous article, "Doug Palmer" said:
100 LL just jumped from $3.82 to $4.54 at our airport, and at HAF we

Brief pause while the Europeans in the group laugh themselves silly at
our so-called high prices


Who gives a %#^& what the euros think. They have high prices because its
mostly taxes which were created by their elected leaders. Its their own
fault.

"Mark" wrote in message
...
In a previous article, "Doug Palmer" said:
100 LL just jumped from $3.82 to $4.54 at our airport, and at HAF we

Brief pause while the Europeans in the group laugh themselves silly at
our so-called high prices


Who gives a %#^& what the euros think. They have high prices because its
mostly taxes which were created by their elected leaders. Its their own
fault.



....as long as you realize that what taxes you are not collecting on
gasoline, you are ultimately collecting somewhere else, so you end up paying
for it anyway, one way or another.


One estimate has 12.5 billion in annual subsidies to petroleum companies
(and that's back in 1998). That is coming from somewhere.

http://209.200.74.155/doc/Real%20Pri...20Gasoline.pdf

"Icebound" wrote in message ...



...as long as you realize that what taxes you are not collecting on gasoline, you are ultimately collecting somewhere
else, so you end up paying for it anyway, one way or another.


One estimate has 12.5 billion in annual subsidies to petroleum companies (and that's back in 1998). That is coming
from somewhere.

http://209.200.74.155/doc/Real%20Pri...20Gasoline.pdf



The problem here is that we are continuing to pay those 'hidden' expenses and taxes while also paying the ever
increasing costs of the gasolene. The prices are being driven by speculators, not by true demand, and the profits are
exorbitant.

".Blueskies." wrote in message
news:YJw2g.13688
The problem here is that we are continuing to pay those 'hidden' expenses
and taxes while also paying the ever increasing costs of the gasolene. The
prices are being driven by speculators, not by true demand, and the
profits are exorbitant.

China and India tripling and quadrupling their consumption is not a "true
demand"?

Paul Tomblin wrote:
Brief pause while the Europeans in the group laugh themselves silly at
our so-called high prices


Yes, well Europeans have a mere fraction of the GA activity we have
enjoyed here in the US. I'm more concerned about the laughter coming
from the oil producing countries.

In article ,
(Paul Tomblin) wrote:

In a previous article, "Doug Palmer" said:
100 LL just jumped from $3.82 to $4.54 at our airport, and at HAF we

Brief pause while the Europeans in the group laugh themselves silly at
our so-called high prices

And man, look at the healthy, thriving GA market in Europe. Hopefully
someday we can aspire to be like that... not.



JKG

Doug Palmer wrote:
100 LL just jumped from $3.82 to $4.54 at our airport, and at HAF we
traditionally represent the lower costs for our area (SF Bay) Where will it
end? to the pessimists in the room this feels like the begning of the end
for those of us who pinch our pennies to get a little air time in once or
twice a week. It doesn't seem that long ago that it was just above $2/Gal.

The United States has no leadership when it comes to this issue.
We sit with our thumb up our A$$ bitching but doing nothing. We
can't explore and develop additional crude oil reserves that would
make us less dependent upon foreign suppliers. By doing nothing
we have created our own problems, and don't think the rest of the
world doesn't benefit from our inability do anything but bitch
about hown much retirement some oil exective is going to get.

Meanwhile other countries continue to develop their supplies and
take our money hand over fist, laughing all the way to the bank.