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Old June 20th 14, 11:18 PM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
son_of_flubber
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Default How does one land upside down following a PT3?

According to article: Released 100-200 feet AGL. Minor injuries to pilot.

http://www.shropshirestar.com/news/2...crash/4147432/

The photo show tail boom broken behind wings. Tail and wings and nose appear intact. Speculations on how the pilot landed like this?
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Old June 20th 14, 11:30 PM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
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Default How does one land upside down following a PT3?

On Friday, June 20, 2014 3:18:48 PM UTC-7, son_of_flubber wrote:
According to article: Released 100-200 feet AGL. Minor injuries to pilot.

Speculations on how the pilot landed like this?

High energy ground loop?

Andy (GY)

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Old June 20th 14, 11:51 PM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
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Default How does one land upside down following a PT3?

At 22:30 20 June 2014, Andy wrote:
On Friday, June 20, 2014 3:18:48 PM UTC-7, son_of_flubber wrote:
According to article: Released 100-200 feet AGL. Minor injuries to

pilot.
Speculations on how the pilot landed like this?

High energy ground loop?

Andy (GY)



Mainly winch at the Myndd.
Wing drop at start of winch launch- glider cartwheeled? Spun off failed
launch? Turning low off failed launch - wing clipped ground - glider went
inverted? Who knows -but it time the accident report will tell us.




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Old June 21st 14, 12:02 AM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
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Default How does one land upside down following a PT3?

Speculation that winch launch commenced with elevator not connected.
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Old June 21st 14, 04:58 AM
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Originally Posted by son_of_flubber View Post
According to article: Released 100-200 feet AGL. Minor injuries to pilot.

http://www.shropshirestar.com/news/2...crash/4147432/

The photo show tail boom broken behind wings. Tail and wings and nose appear intact. Speculations on how the pilot landed like this?
It's super simple ... you land on your roof .... geez
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Old June 21st 14, 12:28 PM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
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Default How does one land upside down following a PT3?

On Friday, June 20, 2014 7:02:53 PM UTC-4, waremark wrote:
Speculation that winch launch commenced with elevator not connected.


If the CG is within the allowable range, most gliders with a CG hook actually perform a fairly decent winch launch w/o elevator input.
We don't have any real info so everything about this accident is pure speculation.
Uli
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Old June 21st 14, 04:28 PM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
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Default How does one land upside down following a PT3?

On Friday, June 20, 2014 3:18:48 PM UTC-7, son_of_flubber wrote:
According to article: Released 100-200 feet AGL. Minor injuries to pilot.



http://www.shropshirestar.com/news/2...crash/4147432/



The photo show tail boom broken behind wings. Tail and wings and nose appear intact. Speculations on how the pilot landed like this?


...."which was being towed approximately 100 to 200 feet in the air, plummeted to the ground before skidding and overturning on to its roof." looks like it flipped during the ground loop
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Old June 21st 14, 08:06 PM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
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Default How does one land upside down following a PT3?

At 15:28 21 June 2014, Matt Herron Jr. wrote:
On Friday, June 20, 2014 3:18:48 PM UTC-7, son_of_flubber wrote:
According to article: Released 100-200 feet AGL. Minor injuries to

pilot.




http://www.shropshirestar.com/news/2...crash/4147432/



The photo show tail boom broken behind wings. Tail and wings and nose

appear intact. Speculations on how the pilot landed like this?

...."which was being towed approximately 100 to 200 feet in the air,
plummeted to the ground before skidding and overturning on to its roof."
looks like it flipped during the ground loop

Related by someone not at the scene who probably has little if no aviation
background. Wait for the accident report.

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Old June 22nd 14, 12:59 AM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
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Default How does one land upside down following a PT3?

Waiting for the accident report goes against every principle of RAS.

Release the hounds! Experts are everywhere!
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Old June 22nd 14, 01:59 AM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
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Default How does one land upside down following a PT3?

On Friday, June 20, 2014 11:58:21 PM UTC-4, POPS wrote:

It's super simple ... you land on your roof .... geez


But how do one land inverted without breaking wings, nose, or tail AND walk away?

I'm more interested in well-dissected historical cases where this has happened, than in this particular undocumented accident.
 




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