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Old September 18th 07, 04:00 AM posted to alt.games.microsoft.flight-sim,rec.aviation.student,rec.aviation.piloting
Richard Carpenter
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....is in the books.

http://richcarpenter.blogspot.com/

Any comments or feedback is appreciated.

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Old September 18th 07, 06:41 AM posted to alt.games.microsoft.flight-sim,rec.aviation.student,rec.aviation.piloting
Ricky
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On Sep 17, 10:00 pm, Richard Carpenter wrote:
...is in the books.

http://richcarpenter.blogspot.com/

Any comments or feedback is appreciated.


My feedback to your blog would be; as the speed increases during the
takeoff roll, the required input on the rudder pedals becomes less and
less to keep the track "straight."
For landings, you may want to keep your hands on the wheel & feet on
the pedals and "feel" or "follow" your instructor's control pressures
and responses. My pp instructor had me doing this since day 1 and I
soloed within 15 hours.

Ricky

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Old September 18th 07, 08:52 AM posted to alt.games.microsoft.flight-sim,rec.aviation.student,rec.aviation.piloting
John Ward[_3_]
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Hi Richard,

Because you are so articulate, this is going to be one fantastic blog,
mate!!

Best wishes.

Regards,
John Ward

"Richard Carpenter" wrote in message
oups.com...
...is in the books.

http://richcarpenter.blogspot.com/

Any comments or feedback is appreciated.



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Old September 18th 07, 08:54 AM posted to alt.games.microsoft.flight-sim,rec.aviation.student,rec.aviation.piloting
John Ward[_3_]
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Hi Ricky,

Or, mate, in the Sim', install the Shockwave P-51 D or H, and then
develop that same sensitivity, even within the Sim'.

Regards,
John Ward

"Ricky" wrote in message
ups.com...
On Sep 17, 10:00 pm, Richard Carpenter wrote:
...is in the books.

http://richcarpenter.blogspot.com/

Any comments or feedback is appreciated.


My feedback to your blog would be; as the speed increases during the
takeoff roll, the required input on the rudder pedals becomes less and
less to keep the track "straight."
For landings, you may want to keep your hands on the wheel & feet on
the pedals and "feel" or "follow" your instructor's control pressures
and responses. My pp instructor had me doing this since day 1 and I
soloed within 15 hours.

Ricky



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Old September 19th 07, 04:18 PM posted to alt.games.microsoft.flight-sim,rec.aviation.student,rec.aviation.piloting
Catalano
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Hi Richard,

thank you very much for this interesting stories!
Could you do me one favor?
I would like to read more about how FSX fits to your real flight
experiences.
In which cases it comes very close to the reality and in which case not at
all.

I never will have the oportunity to do real flying so your input has a big
influence for
me and my simming..

Thanks in advance

Bodo

"Richard Carpenter" schrieb im Newsbeitrag
oups.com...
...is in the books.

http://richcarpenter.blogspot.com/

Any comments or feedback is appreciated.




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Old September 19th 07, 05:36 PM posted to alt.games.microsoft.flight-sim,rec.aviation.student,rec.aviation.piloting
Richard Carpenter
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On Sep 19, 11:18 am, "Catalano" wrote:
Hi Richard,

thank you very much for this interesting stories!
Could you do me one favor?
I would like to read more about how FSX fits to your real flight
experiences.
In which cases it comes very close to the reality and in which case not at
all.

I never will have the oportunity to do real flying so your input has a big
influence for
me and my simming..

Thanks in advance

Bodo

"Richard Carpenter" schrieb im Newsbeitragnews:1190084429.416911.201820@d55g2000h sg.googlegroups.com...



...is in the books.


http://richcarpenter.blogspot.com/


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Well, I haven't made the jump to FSX yet. I'm still using FS9.
However, I would imagine it all applies here.

Obviously, the biggest difference is the fact that you really don't
get any sort of feel for the control pressures required or the forces
exerted on the aircraft in MSFS. It does give you sort of a static
"action/reaction" experience, though. The biggest help MSFS provided -
for me, anyway - was that it taught me many of the concepts that are
covered in early lessons. John was pleased to find that I understood
what the primary guages on the instrumentation panel were all about
and how to use them. Also, concepts such as rudder and trim usage and
the basic maneuvers (climb, descend, turn and straight and level
flight) were already familiar to me. It was just a matter of
practicing the same actions with a real aircraft. The use of rudder
and back pressure on the controls during a turn, would be one good
example.

One thing I found to be much easier in real practice is trimming the
aircraft. I have come to find that the Cessna 172 modeled in MSFS
leaves a bit to be desired in that department. Trimming was one point
I was a bit nervous about before I ever tried it in a real situation,
as in MSFS, it is very difficult to get quite right much of the time.
I found that in the sim, I would often get to the point where I almost
had the aircraft trimmed for level flight, yet the slightest click for
additional trim adjusted my pitch too far in the opposite direction,
causing me to be unable to establish level flight that way. It is much
easier with the real thing.

On the other hand, taxiing in the sim is *much* easier than the real
thing - well, for me anyway. I still get a little squirrelly trying to
keep it straight on takeoff as well.

Once you develop an understanding of the basic physics involved, MS
sims are still a great tool for preparation and practicing things such
as IFR and radio communications. I haven't even touched on those
topics yet, but I feel confident I will get plenty of benefit out of
the simulation where they are concerned.


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Old September 21st 07, 03:38 AM posted to alt.games.microsoft.flight-sim,rec.aviation.student,rec.aviation.piloting
Phil
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On Sep 17, 10:00 pm, Richard Carpenter wrote:
...is in the books.

http://richcarpenter.blogspot.com/

Any comments or feedback is appreciated.


I just had another lesson last night. It was perfect weather for
practicing landings. Only a breath of wind at a slight angle to the
runway. Unfortunately, the airplane I normally fly was down for
maintenance, so I flew one I had never tried before. This one was
much more sensitive to rudder inputs on the ground, so taxiing and
tracking the centerline were difficult. After a couple of slalom
takeoffs and landings, I eventually figured out that this airplane
wants to turn left, and if I just fed in constant right rudder I could
keep it tracking much better.

FYI I am an amputee, and I operate the rudder pedals with just my
right foot by switching back and forth. If I can learn to handle a
plane on the ground, I am sure you can too. It just takes practice.
After all, you have spent your life steering with your hands, and now
suddenly you have to learn to do it with your feet. Your brain needs
to do some re-wiring for this, and it will take time.

Oh, and that fear and loathing about landings? It's perfectly
normal. At first it felt like wrestling a snake to try to get the
plane to line up and cooperate on approach and landing. But gradually
your brain and body adapt to the needs of the airplane. You start to
whittle away all the extra control inputs, and pretty soon you find
that you aren't wrestling so much anymore. This _will_ happen for
you, so don't despair or beat yourself up while you are going up the
learning curve. Everyone who learns to fly goes through this process.

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Old September 21st 07, 04:00 AM posted to alt.games.microsoft.flight-sim,rec.aviation.student,rec.aviation.piloting
John Ward[_3_]
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Hi Phil,

Sounds like great weather for a flight, mate - what stage of your
licence are you up to?

If you don't mind me asking, what happens with braking?

Regards,
John Ward
"Phil" wrote in message
ups.com...
On Sep 17, 10:00 pm, Richard Carpenter wrote:
...is in the books.

http://richcarpenter.blogspot.com/

Any comments or feedback is appreciated.


I just had another lesson last night. It was perfect weather for
practicing landings. Only a breath of wind at a slight angle to the
runway. Unfortunately, the airplane I normally fly was down for
maintenance, so I flew one I had never tried before. This one was
much more sensitive to rudder inputs on the ground, so taxiing and
tracking the centerline were difficult. After a couple of slalom
takeoffs and landings, I eventually figured out that this airplane
wants to turn left, and if I just fed in constant right rudder I could
keep it tracking much better.

FYI I am an amputee, and I operate the rudder pedals with just my
right foot by switching back and forth. If I can learn to handle a
plane on the ground, I am sure you can too. It just takes practice.
After all, you have spent your life steering with your hands, and now
suddenly you have to learn to do it with your feet. Your brain needs
to do some re-wiring for this, and it will take time.

Oh, and that fear and loathing about landings? It's perfectly
normal. At first it felt like wrestling a snake to try to get the
plane to line up and cooperate on approach and landing. But gradually
your brain and body adapt to the needs of the airplane. You start to
whittle away all the extra control inputs, and pretty soon you find
that you aren't wrestling so much anymore. This _will_ happen for
you, so don't despair or beat yourself up while you are going up the
learning curve. Everyone who learns to fly goes through this process.



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Old September 21st 07, 11:22 AM posted to alt.games.microsoft.flight-sim,rec.aviation.student,rec.aviation.piloting
Andy Hawkins
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Hi,

In article ,
John wrote:
If you don't mind me asking, what happens with braking?


If memory serves, his aircraft doesn't have toe brakes.

Andy
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Old September 21st 07, 11:41 AM posted to alt.games.microsoft.flight-sim,rec.aviation.student,rec.aviation.piloting
John Ward[_3_]
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Hi Andy,

I wonder which aircraft Phil is learning on, then?

I wasn't sure which stage Phil is up to, as I wasn't sure whether he
actually meant "night", or "evening".

I can't fly at all, in real life, so I'm naturally in awe of Phil's
experiences to date, and would love to hear more about them, the same as we
are hearing from a few other blokes here who are currently undertaking
flying training.

Not being pedantic at all, mate, I just try to learn as much as possible
here on this news group, so whenever a question strikes me, I simply ask it.
:-)

I reckon there are hundreds of blokes here who would love to learn more
from Phil, and about his experiences so far...

Regards,
John Ward
"Andy Hawkins" wrote in message
...
Hi,

In article ,
John wrote:
If you don't mind me asking, what happens with braking?


If memory serves, his aircraft doesn't have toe brakes.

Andy



 




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