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US military Operations ongoing in Iran right now (for Israel)
US military Operations ongoing in Iran right now (for Israel)
Col. Sam Gardiner on CNN, 9/18/06 http://thinkprogress.org/col-sam-gardiner-on-cnn-91806/ BLITZER: How likely is the U.S. strike against Iran? And would it lead to all-out war? Joining us now is retired U.S. Air Force colonel Sam Gardiner. He has taught strategy and military operations at the National War College, the Air War College, and the Naval War College. Colonel thanks very much for coming in. He just prepared a paper for the Century Foundation entitled "Considering the U.S. Military Option For Iran." You speak to a lot of people plugged in. What is your bottom line? How close in your opinion is the Bush Administration to giving that go ahead. GARDINER: It's been given. In fact, we've probably been executing military operations inside Iran for at least 18 months. The evidence is overwhelming BLITZER: Wait. Wait. Let me press you. GARDINER: Sure. BLITZER: When you say it's been given. The president says he wants diplomacy to work to convince the Iranian government to stop enriching uranium, not go forward. "I would tell the Iranian people that we have no desire for conflict." He told David Ignatius of the Washington Post the other day. So what does that mean, the order has been given? GARDINER: We are conducting military operations inside Iran right now. The evidence is overwhelming. From both the Iranians, Americans, and from congressional sources. BLITZER: What is "military operation?" Define that. GARDINER: Sure. They probably have had two objectives going back 18 months. The first was to gather intelligence. Where is the Iranian nuclear program? The second has been to prepare dissident groups for phase two which will be the strike, which will come as the next phase, I think. BLITZER: Preparing intelligence, that's understandable using all sorts of means. They want to know what the Iranians are up to in terms of their nuclear program. But are you suggesting that U.S. military forces, special operations forces, or others are on the ground right now in Iran. GARDINER: Yes, sir. Certainly. Absolutely clear the evidence is overwhelming from lots of sources, and, again, most of them you can read in the public. Seymore Hersch has done good work on it. There are lots of other people who have done that. I have talked to Iranians. I asked an Iranian ambassador to the IAEA, what's this I hear about Americans being there? He said to me, well, we've captured some people who worked with them. We've confirmed that they're there. BLITZER: Yeah, but, you know, these guys - the Iranians, you can't necessarily believe what they're saying. They could arrest some dissidents in Iran and say these are American spies. They do that all the time. GARDINER: Sure. Sure. The House Committee on Emerging Threats tried to have a hearing some weeks ago in which they asked the Department of State and Defense to come and answer this question because it's serious enough to be answered without congressional approval, and they didn't come to the hearing. There are sources that I have talked to on the Hill who believe that that's true and that it's being done without congressional oversight. BLITZER: Look, I was once a Pentagon correspondent many years ago, and in those days and in these days, as Jamie McIntire just reported, and as you well know from your time in active duty in the Pentagon, in the U.S. military, these guys are planning contingency operations for almost everything. If Canada goes to war against the United States, they have a contingency plan. GARDINER: Okay, two differences. Number one, we have learned from TIME Magazine today that some U.S. naval forces had been alerted for deployment. That is a major step. That's first. Second thing is the sources suggest the plan that's not in the Pentagon. The plan has gone to the White House. That's not normal planning. When the plan goes to the White House, that means we've gone to a different state. BLITZER: You think it's possible there is a little psychological warfare being played on Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, to rattle him. To spread the word. To put out this kind of information. To get him nervous, perhaps a little bit more agreeable to the diplomatic option. GARDINER: It's possible. It's also possible that this path was selected a long time ago. You recall that even before Gulf II that a time when the president said we have no plan. I have no plan on my desk. In the summer of 2002 we began bombing Iraq. Operation Southern Focus, without congressional approval, without the U.N. sanctions, we went ahead and began bombing. BLITZER: The argument at that time is if there were violations of the no-fly zone, U.S. war planes were flying in the north and the south and there were rockets or anti-aircraft fire going up, they could take those out. GARDINER: Yes, but it was a campaign to begin the war before the war began. You know, I would suggest the evidence is there. BLITZER: You see a similar pattern right now. GARDINER: Exactly. BLITZER: We're going to follow this closely. Colonel Sam Gardener, thank you very much. We look forward to reading your report that the Century Foundation is putting out as well. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Iran: The Next War (for Israel): http://www.itszone.co.uk/zone0/viewtopic.php?t=56761 What War with Iran (for Israel) Will Look Like: http://www.itszone.co.uk/zone0/viewtopic.php?t=60022 The Hoekstra-Harman Hoax How the War Party plans to lie us into war - again http://antiwar.com/justin/?articleid=9702 SCANDAL: 9/11 Commissioners Bowed to Pressure to Suppress Main Motive for the 9/11 Attacks: http://representativepress.blogspot....nt-inside.html http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J1bm2GPoFfg Next Phase of the Middle East War: http://www.warwithoutend.co.uk/zone0...ic.php?t=59593 |
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Please, Do NOT start wars for us !!!!
Before US invaded Iraq (upon Saudi, not Israeli request) they had
stable regime that Israel did not had any trouble with it. Now, Thanks to US, we have a country without rule, new cenetr fo Al Qaeda. Thank, you US. ...and please, do not start a war with Iran. We'll solve our problems with them, alone. And, BTW, you, Americans believe too much to CNN. Iran is weak country with a lot of internal problems. They only way to deal with their situation is to drag this stupid issue of the nuclear weapon. They should deal first with their unemployment !! Happy New Year ( and easy Ramadan fast !!) ____________________________________ http://www.newbyte.co.il/ Aircraft Performance and Flight Dynamics ____________________________________ |
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Give war a chance
70 million Iranians could overthrow the mullahs today if they valued their
country. I see no reason to value Iran or Iranians more than the Iranians do. 25 years of persistent failure is enough to reach a conclusion. Few Americans believe CNN or the New Your Times that is why their ratings keep declining. Happy Roshashana -- Scott Muslims Prove Papal Infallibility -- Alan W. Dowd http://tinyurl.com/hd6ns |
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Give war a chance
"tscottme" wrote in message
. .. 70 million Iranians could overthrow the mullahs today if they valued their country. I see no reason to value Iran or Iranians more than the Iranians do. 25 years of persistent failure is enough to reach a conclusion. Few Americans believe CNN or the New Your Times that is why their ratings keep declining. Happy Roshashana -- Scott Muslims Prove Papal Infallibility -- Alan W. Dowd http://tinyurl.com/hd6ns 300 million Americans could overthrow Bush and friends today if they valued their country. I see no reason to value America or Americans more than the Americans do. 25 years of persistent failure, aleviated only by invading small, defenceless nations to a fanfare of self-justification, is enough to reach a conclusion. -- When you discover that "they" really are out to get you, you may realise that you're not quite as paranoid as you thought you were. |
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Give war a chance
The same applies to the Israeli Govrement/Media....
Thanks Perro Blanco wrote: "tscottme" wrote in message . .. 70 million Iranians could overthrow the mullahs today if they valued their country. I see no reason to value Iran or Iranians more than the Iranians do. 25 years of persistent failure is enough to reach a conclusion. Few Americans believe CNN or the New Your Times that is why their ratings keep declining. Happy Roshashana -- Scott Muslims Prove Papal Infallibility -- Alan W. Dowd http://tinyurl.com/hd6ns 300 million Americans could overthrow Bush and friends today if they valued their country. I see no reason to value America or Americans more than the Americans do. 25 years of persistent failure, aleviated only by invading small, defenceless nations to a fanfare of self-justification, is enough to reach a conclusion. -- When you discover that "they" really are out to get you, you may realise that you're not quite as paranoid as you thought you were. |
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Give war a chance
True, but Israel routinely changes governments and directions when their
people desire it. Iranians, like other dysfunctional populations, blame others for their problem and wait for someone else to make their life better. That's why Islam and Muslims are continue to slide deeper into the Dark Ages even as progress becomes more widespread. Some cultures work harder than others to fail. -- Scott Muslims Prove Papal Infallibility -- Alan W. Dowd http://tinyurl.com/hd6ns "bar86" wrote in message ups.com... The same applies to the Israeli Govrement/Media.... Thanks Perro Blanco wrote: "tscottme" wrote in message . .. 70 million Iranians could overthrow the mullahs today if they valued their country. I see no reason to value Iran or Iranians more than the Iranians do. 25 years of persistent failure is enough to reach a conclusion. Few Americans believe CNN or the New Your Times that is why their ratings keep declining. Happy Roshashana -- Scott Muslims Prove Papal Infallibility -- Alan W. Dowd http://tinyurl.com/hd6ns 300 million Americans could overthrow Bush and friends today if they valued their country. I see no reason to value America or Americans more than the Americans do. 25 years of persistent failure, aleviated only by invading small, defenceless nations to a fanfare of self-justification, is enough to reach a conclusion. -- When you discover that "they" really are out to get you, you may realise that you're not quite as paranoid as you thought you were. |
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Please, Do NOT start wars for us !!!!
"bar86" wrote in message ups.com... Before US invaded Iraq (upon Saudi, not Israeli request) they had stable regime that Israel did not had any trouble with it. Now, Thanks to US, we have a country without rule, new cenetr fo Al Qaeda. Are you stupid or just ignorant? Before the US invaded Iraq (either time) they were funding terrorist attacks on Israel. This IS the proven link to terrorism from Iraq. Their link to Al Qaeda was nebulas. There link to Hezbollah, PLO, and funding of homicide bombers is well documented |
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Please, Do NOT start wars for us !!!!
"Robert" wrote in message ...
"bar86" wrote in message ups.com... Before US invaded Iraq (upon Saudi, not Israeli request) they had stable regime that Israel did not had any trouble with it. Now, Thanks to US, we have a country without rule, new cenetr fo Al Qaeda. Are you stupid or just ignorant? Before the US invaded Iraq (either time) they were funding terrorist attacks on Israel. This IS the proven link to terrorism from Iraq. Their link to Al Qaeda was nebulas. There link to Hezbollah, PLO, and funding of homicide bombers is well documented So, " before the US invaded Iraq they were funding terrorist attacks...". So what's new, the US have been funding terrorist attacks for years. Take, for example, the US's approval of Americans funding the IRA to kill British civilians. -- When you discover that "they" really are out to get you, you may realise that you're not quite as paranoid as you thought you were. |
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Please, Do NOT start wars for us !!!!
In article ,
"Perro Blanco" wrote: "Robert" wrote in message ... "bar86" wrote in message ups.com... Before US invaded Iraq (upon Saudi, not Israeli request) they had stable regime that Israel did not had any trouble with it. Now, Thanks to US, we have a country without rule, new cenetr fo Al Qaeda. Are you stupid or just ignorant? Before the US invaded Iraq (either time) they were funding terrorist attacks on Israel. This IS the proven link to terrorism from Iraq. Their link to Al Qaeda was nebulas. There link to Hezbollah, PLO, and funding of homicide bombers is well documented So, " before the US invaded Iraq they were funding terrorist attacks...". There are none so dense as those intentionally being stupid. That's you Blanco. |
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Please, Do NOT start wars for us !!!!
"Steve Hix" wrote in message
... In article , "Perro Blanco" wrote: "Robert" wrote in message ... "bar86" wrote in message ups.com... Before US invaded Iraq (upon Saudi, not Israeli request) they had stable regime that Israel did not had any trouble with it. Now, Thanks to US, we have a country without rule, new cenetr fo Al Qaeda. Are you stupid or just ignorant? Before the US invaded Iraq (either time) they were funding terrorist attacks on Israel. This IS the proven link to terrorism from Iraq. Their link to Al Qaeda was nebulas. There link to Hezbollah, PLO, and funding of homicide bombers is well documented So, " before the US invaded Iraq they were funding terrorist attacks...". There are none so dense as those intentionally being stupid. That's you Blanco. I would suggest, Hix (or is it Hick?) that you are in the frame. READ the sentence, boy, none of the words are that long, now are they. What does it say (regardless of what the writer may, or may not, have WISHED to say)? "Before the US invaded Iraq (either time) they were funding terrorist attacks (on Israel)". It could not be any clearer for anyone but you. It may not have been that illiterate's intention to say that the US were funding terrorist attacks, but he did. What he actually says and what he apparently means are two totally different things. In a court of law, or any legal context, he would be sowing the seeds of his own destruction. Perhaps you would be up there with him. --- When you discover that "they" really are out to get you, you may realise that you're not quite as paranoid as you thought you were. |
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