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Old February 10th 05, 03:14 AM
Slip'er
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Default Operations near border

Where do the FARs address operations near the border? I do not plan to
cross the border, but I vaguely remember a note on a chart that said to
contact FSS if operating in the vicinity of the border. I'd like to know
the exact regulatory reference...

Thanks,
Carl


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Old February 10th 05, 07:58 AM
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"Slip'er" wrote in message
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Where do the FARs address operations near the border?


The FARs have no special requirements for operations within the US near an
international border (I assume that's the kind of border you're talking
about). Maybe you're talking about flight within an ADIZ? *Some* of the
border is bounded by that type of airspace, and there is a flight-plan
requirement for flight there.

Pete


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Old February 10th 05, 01:16 PM
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Not a regulation but an advisory found in the AIM. If you cross the
border in error you may find yourself being accompanied by an armed
aircraft and forced to land someplace not of your own choosing!
Ol S&B

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Old February 10th 05, 03:14 PM
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Not a regulation but an advisory found in the AIM. If you cross the
border in error you may find yourself being accompanied by an armed
aircraft and forced to land someplace not of your own choosing!


Such as California?


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Old February 10th 05, 03:54 PM
Ron Rosenfeld
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On Wed, 9 Feb 2005 19:14:28 -0800, "Slip'er" wrote:

Where do the FARs address operations near the border? I do not plan to
cross the border, but I vaguely remember a note on a chart that said to
contact FSS if operating in the vicinity of the border. I'd like to know
the exact regulatory reference...

Thanks,
Carl


Which border?

I live on the US-Canadian border and don't do anything in particular unless
I will be landing in Canada. Other borders might not be so lax.

However, shortly after 9-11, I was doing a flight for some friends so they
could do some aerial photography. We were right on the border and, at the
altitude, not able to communicate with ATC. I did ask FSS to notify them
prior to this operation, but it was no big deal.

I've not done so since, though.

And one of our local airport approaches is partially in Canadian airspace.

I would imagine that the rules are very different operating along the
southern US border.
Ron (EPM) (N5843Q, Mooney M20E) (CP, ASEL, ASES, IA)
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Old February 11th 05, 12:48 AM
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"Peter Duniho" wrote in message
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"Slip'er" wrote in message
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Where do the FARs address operations near the border?


The FARs have no special requirements for operations within the US near an
international border (I assume that's the kind of border you're talking
about). Maybe you're talking about flight within an ADIZ? *Some* of the
border is bounded by that type of airspace, and there is a flight-plan
requirement for flight there.

Pete

And IIRC, you have to have the BIG numbers displayed on the aircraft, the
watercraft size doesn't cut it.
Marty



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Old February 11th 05, 01:57 AM
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"Matt Barrow" writes:

and forced to land someplace not of your own choosing!


Such as California?


Probably Texas.
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Old February 11th 05, 04:23 AM
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I was referring to the US-Mexico border. I pulled out an old chart to
refresh my memory. The note I was thinking about says, "report to FAA radio
prior to entering ADIZ." The chart uses a pretty wide stripe to indicate
the ADIZ. Some airports are even within the ADIZ line. So, if I am going
to be flying along the border looking at the fence, is it a good idea to
contact FAA radio? And, what is FAA radio?

Carl


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Old February 11th 05, 05:07 AM
Peter Duniho
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"Slip'er" wrote in message
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[...] So, if I am going
to be flying along the border looking at the fence, is it a good idea to
contact FAA radio? And, what is FAA radio?


If you are flying within the ADIZ, you need to comply with the requirements
of that airspace. If you are not, then you don't.

Pete


 




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