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Condor Joystick/Rudder Pedals
Hi, I think it may finally be time to retire my mid '90's vintage
Thrustmaster Joystick/Trhottle/Rudder combination. It's still running on the old gameport connector, and I don't think Win 7 supports that anymore. So with that in mind what are you using these days in the way of a joystick/rudder combo for flying Condor? Thanks Pete |
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Condor Joystick/Rudder Pedals
On Jan 3, 8:11*am, "Peter von Tresckow" wrote:
Hi, I think it may finally be time to retire my mid '90's vintage Thrustmaster Joystick/Trhottle/Rudder combination. It's still running on the old gameport connector, and I don't think Win 7 supports that anymore. So with that in mind what are you using these days in the way of a joystick/rudder combo for flying Condor? Thanks Pete I have a Saitek Evo joystick and Saitek Pro Flight rudder pedals. I really like the button layout and ergonomics of this stick and it has always worked very well for what we do in Condor. The throttle lever is perfect for spoiler control. The pedals have tension adjustment and while not exactly like glider pedals (unless you make them yourself I think they all are more like airplane pedals), they do give the needed result and help retain "muscle memory" for coordination.. |
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Condor Joystick/Rudder Pedals
Hi Pete,
Remde (Cumulus Soaring) recommends and sells the CH-Pro rudder pedals. The problem with typical game pedal setups is that they try to operate both as gas/brake pedals (i.e. independent movement) and as rudder pedals (i.e. symmetrically opposite motion). The CH-Pro pedals achieve the latter motion arrangement by sliding the pedals in tracks with a linkage so that if one goes forward, the other goes backwards. I have used these at our club, and while they aren't exactly like typical aviation rudder pedals, they seem to work fine, and as another poster said, they do create the 'muscle memory' needed for beginning students. For experienced pilots, I generally recommend not using rudder pedals at all. Condor supports an 'autorudder' setting that handles almost all requirements for rudder control, and the typical joystick with a twist-grip can easily handle the additional rudder needed for cross- wind takeoffs. Regards, TA On Jan 3, 10:11*am, "Peter von Tresckow" wrote: Hi, I think it may finally be time to retire my mid '90's vintage Thrustmaster Joystick/Trhottle/Rudder combination. It's still running on the old gameport connector, and I don't think Win 7 supports that anymore. So with that in mind what are you using these days in the way of a joystick/rudder combo for flying Condor? Thanks Pete |
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Pete,
I use a Microsoft Sidewinder Force Feedback 2 Joystick w/o the rudder pedals. If you get one, make sure you get it with a USB plug and not a serial cable. Found mine on Ebay, still some on the http://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_from...All-Categories As far as rudder pedals..."What Frank said." I don't need/use 'em. See you in Condor! Rob S. "ZAP" ps-since Frank won't shamelessly plug his book, I'll do it for him...Check out his "Cross Country Soaring with Condor" book sold by Paul Remde at Cumulus Soaring. Wish I would have bought that sucker 6 months ago! Then again, if you like yelling at your computer monitor, save the 20 bucks and steady as she goes! http://www.cumulus-soaring.com/books...WithCondor.htm |
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Condor Joystick/Rudder Pedals
On Jan 3, 9:11*am, "Peter von Tresckow" wrote:
Hi, I think it may finally be time to retire my mid '90's vintage Thrustmaster Joystick/Trhottle/Rudder combination. It's still running on the old gameport connector, and I don't think Win 7 supports that anymore. So with that in mind what are you using these days in the way of a joystick/rudder combo for flying Condor? Thanks Pete Peter, Another option is the use of an RC transmitter (Tx) that you connect to Condor via the trainer jack. Condor recognizes my older JR XP 8103 transmitter via a USB link. Since I'm used to flying the transmitter functions (Aileron/Elevator on right stick, Rudder and Throttle on left) it feels quite natural and I don't miss the rudder pedals. Airbrakes can be put on the throttle channel, gear and other functions can be assigned to other free channels. Herb |
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Condor Joystick/Rudder Pedals
I agree that the stick twist for rudder works just fine and doesn't
mess with your head once you are familiar with it. It's actually fairly intuitive. I don't use the auto-rudder since the stick twist works so well. However, if you want glider-like pedals, it's not hard to do. PC game rudder pedals are just a potentiometer and some minor electronics to turn the pot output to USB. These can be from a gutted set of pedals or joystick. There are many examples of this approach on the "Cockpit builder" web sites. Google "DIY rudder pedals" On Jan 3, 4:20*pm, Frank Paynter wrote: Hi Pete, Remde (Cumulus Soaring) recommends and sells the CH-Pro rudder pedals. The problem with typical game pedal setups is that they try to operate both as gas/brake pedals (i.e. independent movement) and as rudder pedals (i.e. symmetrically opposite motion). *The CH-Pro pedals achieve the latter motion arrangement by sliding the pedals in tracks with a linkage so that if one goes forward, the other goes backwards. * I have used these at our club, and while they aren't exactly like typical aviation rudder pedals, they seem to work fine, and as another poster said, they do create the 'muscle memory' needed for beginning students. For experienced pilots, I generally recommend not using rudder pedals at all. Condor supports an 'autorudder' setting that handles almost all requirements for rudder control, and the typical joystick with a twist-grip can easily handle the additional rudder needed for cross- wind takeoffs. Regards, TA On Jan 3, 10:11*am, "Peter von Tresckow" wrote: Hi, I think it may finally be time to retire my mid '90's vintage Thrustmaster Joystick/Trhottle/Rudder combination. It's still running on the old gameport connector, and I don't think Win 7 supports that anymore. So with that in mind what are you using these days in the way of a joystick/rudder combo for flying Condor? Thanks Pete |
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