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When pilots quote how many hours they have logged, is this a personal log
that is kept, or is every hour you fly entered into a national registry and formally kept? Crash Lander -- I'm not always right, But I'm never wrong! |
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When pilots quote how many hours they have logged, is this a personal log
that is kept, or is every hour you fly entered into a national registry and formally kept? It is a personal log; no national registry is kept. It is required that any flight time that you use towards currency requirements and ratings be logged appropriately. It is not required that all time be logged, though as a matter of practice most pilots probably log it all. There are rules about how the log is kept (for example, the flight conditions (day/night, instrument, simulated instrument), the administrative conditions ("pilot in command, second in command, single engine/multi engine) and other things. It's basically fairly simple, although certain nuances of the rules keep Usenet participants busy posting when they should be flying. Jose -- The monkey turns the crank and thinks he's making the music. for Email, make the obvious change in the address. |
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I'm surprised. I never knew how it all worked. That leaves the whole
'minimum number of hours required' thing a bit open to fudging doesn't it? Crash Lander -- I'm not always right, But I'm never wrong! "Jose" wrote in message m... When pilots quote how many hours they have logged, is this a personal log that is kept, or is every hour you fly entered into a national registry and formally kept? It is a personal log; no national registry is kept. It is required that any flight time that you use towards currency requirements and ratings be logged appropriately. It is not required that all time be logged, though as a matter of practice most pilots probably log it all. There are rules about how the log is kept (for example, the flight conditions (day/night, instrument, simulated instrument), the administrative conditions ("pilot in command, second in command, single engine/multi engine) and other things. It's basically fairly simple, although certain nuances of the rules keep Usenet participants busy posting when they should be flying. Jose -- The monkey turns the crank and thinks he's making the music. for Email, make the obvious change in the address. |
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Yes, but fraud can get you in legal trouble with the feds
and professional pilots easily recognize phony hours [like the guy who came looking for a job and claimed 1200 hours total time and 400 hours actual instrument.] If you have time listed that doesn't make sense, no body will trust you. -- James H. Macklin ATP,CFI,A&P "Crash Lander" wrote in message ... | I'm surprised. I never knew how it all worked. That leaves the whole | 'minimum number of hours required' thing a bit open to fudging doesn't it? | Crash Lander | | -- | I'm not always right, | But I'm never wrong! | "Jose" wrote in message | m... | When pilots quote how many hours they have logged, is this a personal log | that is kept, or is every hour you fly entered into a national registry | and formally kept? | | It is a personal log; no national registry is kept. It is required that | any flight time that you use towards currency requirements and ratings be | logged appropriately. It is not required that all time be logged, though | as a matter of practice most pilots probably log it all. There are rules | about how the log is kept (for example, the flight conditions (day/night, | instrument, simulated instrument), the administrative conditions ("pilot | in command, second in command, single engine/multi engine) and other | things. It's basically fairly simple, although certain nuances of the | rules keep Usenet participants busy posting when they should be flying. | | | Jose | -- | The monkey turns the crank and thinks he's making the music. | for Email, make the obvious change in the address. | | |
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Plus if your logs show 5000 hours in your aircraft the feds can always
ask to look at the aircraft log books. If its in a rental aircraft the FBO will certainly have logs of it. It would probably be easy to overstate things by 10% but it wouldn't buy you enough to risk it. Overstating more than that would start to get easier to check. There is the famous story (or legend) of a guy shownig up for his multi-ATP ride with lots of multiengine time. The examiner looks through his log book and see the N number for the multi-engine plane is that same as the plane parked on the ramp, which just happens to be owned by the examiner! -Robert Dave Doe wrote: In article , says... I'm surprised. I never knew how it all worked. That leaves the whole 'minimum number of hours required' thing a bit open to fudging doesn't it? Crash Lander Yes. I have a flight that I never logged - and probably never will. I have my reasons. However logging extra hours - well - while you're doing your training, you'll be doing so presumably with the one organisation. So this is easily cross-checked (as well as very foolhardy IMO). Indeed it will be the only easy way to rebuild your logbook if you lose it. -- Duncan |
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Robert M. Gary wrote: Plus if your logs show 5000 hours in your aircraft the feds can always ask to look at the aircraft log books. If its in a rental aircraft the FBO will certainly have logs of it. Not without one hell of a lot legwork. If I claim to have rented planes all over the country the FAA will have a lot of work to do to prove I didn't. |
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Crash,
That leaves the whole 'minimum number of hours required' thing a bit open to fudging doesn't it? Yep. But if you get caught having fudged, watch your insurance party with joy - and refuse payment. -- Thomas Borchert (EDDH) |
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It is also grounds to revoke all certificates held.
"Thomas Borchert" wrote in message ... | Crash, | | That leaves the whole | 'minimum number of hours required' thing a bit open to fudging doesn't it? | | | Yep. But if you get caught having fudged, watch your insurance party with | joy - and refuse payment. | | -- | Thomas Borchert (EDDH) | |
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"Jim Macklin" wrote It is also grounds to revoke all certificates held. To the original poster: I think you can see, from the responses, that there are too many really "bad things" that can result from fudging your logbook. The possibility of being caught is certainly not worth the possible gain that could result from having more hours. Very few people would have a situation where just a few hours would help, and fudging a lot is too obvious to get away with. It is way too easy for someone to catch you. Also, one thing nobody mentioned is, you write down the aircraft along with the hours in your logbook. If it is a rental, or working hours, all you have to do is go back to the airplane's records, and see if you are written down as having been the pilot on the dates you said in your logbook. -- Jim in NC |
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