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The one minute turn that can save your life
NW_Pilot wrote:
Cecil, go look back in to your instrument training about gyro precession and turning! Turning errors pertain to the whiskey compass, not to the gyro compass. If the heading indicator precesses through a standard rate turn of 180 degrees enough to result in you being seriously off course then it needs a rebuild or replacement. If your gyros are out then yes, your should be timing your turns. |
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The one minute turn that can save your life
On Sat, 03 Feb 2007 19:03:23 -0500, Ron Natalie
wrote: Even the partial panel IFR training typically use the needle to make timed turns to heading. Once you settle down you can verify with the mag compass you're on the heading you want. When I learned IFR the instructor kept the AH covered until the check ride. I still prefer the TC to the AH but I notice that the new planes with the glass panels have a back up AH but no TC. |
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The one minute turn that can save your life
John T wrote:
"G. Sylvester" wrote in message From everything that I've read, heard , taught and practice, IFR flying is 80% plus looking at the AI with quick glances for confirmation to the other instruments. Why do it differently for VFR students? Maybe I'm an anomaly, but I don't use the AI nearly that much in my IMC flying. Again, I'm no authority but there is a reason why the AI is twice as large as the other instruments in very high performance (King Air on up) airplanes. Basically you've been flying partial panel. On MS Flight sim, do approaches with 20G50 at a right angle, heavy rain, 100 foot ceilings, 1/4 mile vis staring at the AI. Literally staring at the AI. They are almost easy. You notice 1/4 line thickness deviations quicker than the VSI, CDI or anything. It's literally instantaneous. Then do it with everything but the AI and DG covered. Set the power, fly the AI, DG and CDI. Cake. Gerald |
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The one minute turn that can save your life
As a fairly new VFR pilot, I just thought I'd offer my perspective on
the 180 turn in IMC. I am used to looking at the Attitude Indicator in VFR flight, and I found it pretty easy to control the aircraft under the hood and in actual IMC when flying with an instructor, including doing turns. I am used to looking at the DG too. I feel confident that, despite the additional stress and disorientation of an actual IMC encounter, I could use these two instruments to turn the plane 180, in control. I would know what heading I was flying before, and I would set the 'bug' (found on most DGs I have seen) to the new heading, just to make sure. On the other hand, let's look at two instruments I hardly use at all. I am not used to doing standard rate turns using the turn indicator, nor to timing my turns using the clock. I would be concerned, if using this method in an actual IMC encounter, that it would be harder to focus on the AI as much. And focusing on the AI is what enables you to keep control of the aircraft. So I know what I will do if I get myself into that situation. Tom |
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